[Psgameboy]

Interesting findings, now some of the missing puzzle I have had from CEXtoDEX ,when I was reading on ps3devwiki, has become more clear to me.
Another thing that people might be interested to know, that downgrading from Dex fw to another, can be done via software (but you need to the MAGIC pup for it).

One thing for sure, on Dex fw, for a team like TB, it's much more easier to dump a decrypted eboot when u can run your own unsigned code.
And don't get too excited about running game managers that require (lv2 peek&poke), however, for those of you who remember the days of Geohot/Kakarotoks mfws, can find an alternative way.

well, as it seems, TB/E3/whatever, will have to make sure they have a Decr and (as I see it) need to be authorized to d/l 4.20+ debug fw.

Thanks for sharing!

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by digitalsnake it seems that with MultiMAN v04.01.00 DEX , it is possible to run games. but i think it is for 3.55 fixed games. if this method (CEX to DEX) couldn't cause playing 3.60+ games , why is it important ????

<eussNL> ok, so you want to use TargetManager/debugger because you write your own applications?

<eussNL> because THAT is the only thing a CEX cannot do

Don't get too technically into what he said has he was only stating to specific things mentioned.

[Rautz]

Originally Posted by digitalsnake if this method (CEX to DEX) couldn't cause playing 3.60+ games , why is it important ????

Hopefully, to inject some new life(homebrew devs) into this joke of a scene. New devs bring new ideas for homebrew. This information might entice some people since they can have a better platform to develop with without having to shell out their hard earned cash on a dex(or scammed into buying a cex-dex convert).

If you convert to DEX you can play 3.60+ games just fine.... as long as you have the right firmware. <<< I'm talking bout running retail discs. If you want backups then update back down to 3.55(that PUP is on the net and easy to find), run MM and play the games that people on retail CFW can play.

[zecoxao]

@GregoryRasputin like i said, this is harder to judge than it looks. This is a very precious method that people were trying very hard to keep secret because it would've eventually get us access to bootldr(or so they say). This has two sides of the coin unfortunately

[DEFAULTDNB]

Moar dexl0ve! Hope this leads to something great

[naddel81]

Originally Posted by mcmrc1 oh ok now i understand thx for the info... so we have a free ps3 since sony will patch it and if they patch it all devs with converted ps3´s can´t get the newest fixed firmware so the devs starts by zero again...

who cares what devs can get or what they cannot get as long AS THEY DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO SHARE!

since spring 2011, there has not been a single new "fixed firmware" as you call it. not CFW higher than 3.55 although the devs had the possibility (to DEX e.g.).
they did not care/share. so this release from Hong Kong is a good sign for us.

[Rob1980]

Ok, I have read every post, but just to clarify..

I install dex.

I stay on 3.55

I can now play backups of all games tb dongle and others can run without the need to patch the games provided I'm using mm dex?

The benefit to upgrading to 4.11 dex is that I can run all backups <3.60 ie games running before the days of tb, and run retail discs of anything >3.60 that did require dongle/ patch?

I have a tb dongle, but more than happy to use it as a paperweight if my statement is correct.

[EiKi]

you cant run TB games with this, they are encrypted with their own keys, you get a cex -> dex convert you can go up and down fw play legit games on disc, or try as someone mentioned above the workarounds of geohot fw wich didnt "allow" games

someone need to set all this straight with ppl, MM dex does only run on 3.55? no? and 3.55+ doesent have lv1/2 peek/poke it cant mount games

[poorguy]

I guess it is just a matter of time when all those who have pre ordered their dongles go...
Man, the Infinity Team is sure gonna feel really sad about this.. Not 1 dongle released and sold and this valuable info is out... go DEVS!!!

@hellsing9 : Looks like the time came sooner than expected..

[Psgameboy]

Originally Posted by zecoxao @GregoryRasputin like i said, this is harder to judge than it looks. This is a very precious method that people were trying very hard to keep secret because it would've eventually get us access to bootldr(or so they say). This has two sides of the coin unfortunately

It's much more easier to understand how the system behaves on a debug firmware than on retail, thats for sure.
But, I disagree that higher debug fws may reveal any new secrets about the bootldr, in fact, it only makes it worse due to more security checks added to lv0 and lv1 on 3.60+.
Imo, it is better getting there by using 3.55 OtherOS++.

but thanks again for bringing this news.