[lordv]

Originally Posted by ocam are you saying that the devs are talking trash, because they know that this could lead somewhere?

They don't want to lose their converteds by sony implementing sth like the vita debugs by utilizing the super awesome SRTC on newer debug fws or some sort of console id whitelisting.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB The date on the CEX DEX proof vid says 8/8 @2:14 Is that a deliberate mistake or proof it was done a long time ago (I.e: last year)?

It doesn't proof anything, apart from the date being set wrong.

[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin It doesn't proof anything, apart from the date being set wrong.

Fair point.

[lordv]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB The date on the CEX DEX proof vid says 8/8 @2:14 Is that a deliberate mistake or proof it was done a long time ago (I.e: last year)?

Oh last year is not LONG ago...

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by lordv They want to lose their converteds by sony implementing sth like the vita debugs by utilizing the super awesome SRTC on newer debug fws or some sort of console id whitelisting.

If you know so much about debugs and Cex>Dex machines, then make a list of all the possibilities of a Cex>Dex conversion.

For instance, evilsperm said it is not possible to have PSN and that it is not possible to run backups, are you saying this is not true ?

[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by lordv Oh last year is not LONG ago...

I guess we kind of knew it could be done a longer while back with the math durandal cexdex.zip fiasco

[lordv]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin If you know so much about debugs and Cex>Dex machines, then make a list of all the possibilities of a Cex>Dex conversion. For instance, evilsperm said it is not possible to have PSN and that it is not possible to run backups, are you saying this is not true ?

Cex2Dex machines ARE debugs. Whatever you can do with a dex you can do with a cex2dex. Heck even $ONY do that. Listing would be pointless as you can understand, eg.

1.Play backups(look at ps3gen tools)
2.Log in to PSN(assuming you now have 4.20 or 4.21forDEX)
3.FSELF the sh*t out of it
4.(IMO the best)Use the official sce ps3 sdk like it was meant to(prodg debugger etc)
5.Nothing else comes to mind :P
6.Whatever DECH* can do
7.???
8.PROFIT
9.NPDRM ownage(especially TIME restricted ones, PROTIP: look at NPDRM Clock Debug)

[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by lordv PROTIP: look at NPDRM Clock Debug)

NPDRM Clock Debug
Activate/deactivate the validity period of an application that use drm protection.
- Off� : deactivate the NPDRM Clock Debug function.
- On : activate the NPDRM Clock Debug function.

[lordv]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB NPDRM Clock Debug Activate/deactivate the validity period of an application that use drm protection. - Off� : deactivate the NPDRM Clock Debug function. - On : activate the NPDRM Clock Debug function.

Basically what i meant is this:
You have game A that expires on 31/12/12. Now it's 31/12/13. Well as i am sure everyone has tried to do, you set the ps3 clock to 30/12/12 but you realize it still says expired. Somehow you enable npdrm clock debug and BOOM now it's not expired. It overrides the SRTC with the value you set in date and time settings.
Also have you heard of rap2rif?

[Ada Love Lace]

Originally Posted by lordv Check the wiki

For quicker look:
CEX2DEX pro versus con


PROS
Using the features of a debug console
Executing FSELFs
Downgrading (to minver of that SKU/type)

CONS
Loosing Retail functionality(You could always just mod a DEX PUP and boom you got dvd,ps store etc)
PSN not possible -> You can't play online(Hmmmm... LIE)
More Stress to the console (Phats prone to YLOD) (Rly???)
You can't play backups (obvious exception of MultiMan 3.55 DEX) (Lie, check a little folder known as ps3gen)
Easily detectable and banned.


Can you be more explicit on your recent edits thanks you.
Also you said something i second about Euss being really essential to one of the best wiki ever made if not the best. but sadly there are also fews page/infos everyone should read with cautious. But names shouldn t matter in this thread so much, good or not so good contributions.
Last time i didn t use the right words as it should have been by quoting this page.
I will ask you also to complete about this (unban):
Cons:

About :Easily detectable and banned.

Thanks you in advance.
(there are about CONS something i think like "giving too much power" or "attention focus into somewhere it shouln t" but i m still in the process to think about it.)