[naddel81]

IMHO $ony has won this console battle this time.

they secured their system very well. only a few cracks managed to hack it (and are obviously not willing to share their knowledge out of the antipathy of being sued/piracy and because of their egoism).
it do not condemn them for making money with their knowledge (see True Blue).
But what is really effed up: milking the consumer by releasing various dongles under various names just in order to maximize profit.
well, the scene has already come to an end long ago and $ony just wanted to secure the ps3 till its life cycle is over (which should be in the next year).
after that why should they care any longer if the keys are found? they just don't.
it does not matter if the keys are found in 2-3 years. who wants to play ps3 games then?
just look at the PSP. $ony does not care a bit that it is widely open. the console is dead for long, so they couldn't make profit even if the PSP wouldn't have been cracked till now.

[CaptainCPS-X]

Originally Posted by Gonzakpo In the spanish forum ElOtroLado there are already brute force programs for trying to figure out the lv0 key. The only difference is that those are standalone programs (not a collective brute force like you are suggesting). http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_utili...onsola_1731797 The thing is: The key we are looking for is 256 bits long. That is, there are 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936 possible combinations. In scientific notation 1.157920892e+77. Trying keys combinations at a speed of 1000000 keys/second (which would be insanely fast) you would need 1.157920892e+71 seconds to try them all. That is, several times the age of the Universe (4.339 e+17 seconds). Now suppose you gather 10 million people that want to try out your program and collectively brute force the ps3 keys. At a speed of 1000000 keys/second (for each people running the program) you would still ned 1.157920892e+64 seconds to try all the possibilities. That is exactly 2,668635381e+46 times the age of the Universe. Well, as you can see, brute force is not the solution. You would need to be EXTREMELY lucky to hit the key. You have much bigger chances of winning the lottery, becoming rich and creating your own game console company. Believe me.

Damn! xD, maybe Alien's technology will help us someday LMAO! Thanks for the informative post =P

SeeYa!

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by Hannibal1471 To go trough all possibilities would take a long long time... But who says the keys wouldn't be found during the first days?

I think a possibility is to calculate the keys, not bruteforce it it's just timewasting.
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AES permits the use of 256-bit keys. Breaking a symmetric 256-bit key by brute force requires 2128 times more computational power than a 128-bit key. A device that could check a billion billion (1018) AES keys per second (if such a device could ever be made - as of 2012, supercomputers have computing capacities of 20 Peta-FLOPS, see Titan. So 50 supercomputers would be required to process (1018) operations per second) would in theory require about 3×1051 years to exhaust the 256-bit key space.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brute-force_attack

Goodluck.

[iPwnz]

excellent idea! i like it very much! should keep devs and normal users better together and so anyone can help! i would give it a try and let my pc run 24/7 i got an old p4 around he could help to my webserver could also help :D i mean what to loose, some pennys for power but thats all! the sooner we start the sooner we gonna know brute force has a 100% success rate if proper used and no failure is made :D

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by iPwnz excellent idea! i like it very much! should keep devs and normal users better together and so anyone can help! i would give it a try and let my pc run 24/7 i got an old p4 around he could help to my webserver could also help :D i mean what to loose, some pennys for power but thats all! the sooner we start the sooner we gonna know brute force has a 100% success rate if proper used and no failure is made :D

I never knew you were not human:O

[furtsiv]

i think if we can get a mathematical methode : Dichotomy
we will get key in less than one month
how it work:
the program to crack keys split ALL the possible keys to two parts and tell only wich part the key IN then repeat the same procedure.this will reduce the part that contain keys to reasonable one
its the same procedure the solve the most complicated equations so why not give it a try ?

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by furtsiv i think if we can get a mathematical methode : Dichotomy we will get key in less than one month how it work: the program to crack keys split ALL the possible keys to two parts and tell only wich part the key IN then repeat the same procedure.this will reduce the part that contain keys to reasonable one

how is it gunna split the possibles keys , when it wont know which is a possible key and non possible key

[furtsiv]

Originally Posted by carldenning how is it gunna split the possibles keys , when it wont know which is a possible key and non possible key

i mean by possible keys all keys from 000000000000000000.... to FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.......
i can only use analogy here:
in the most complicated mathematical equation we cant know wich is the solution at all but we can know wich part it exist (of course by using some specific operations)

[shonnick]

how did they get the keys the first time ?

[luqi]

Originally Posted by shonnick how did they get the keys the first time ?

They i.a. fail0verflow found a way to calculate the keys ... .