[TizzyT]

It would be more practical in a technical sense to extract the keys, but that isn't happening so far either.

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 If your on Dex try to install linux on 4.xx Dex FW and do a nand/nor dump (Using linux not flasher), Then we can get keys :D

Peek and poke my friend...

[luqi]

Originally Posted by shak360 Has anyone seen the tweet by marcan42 about these .. check his twitter abt a msg to zexaco

I think you mean this one :

@marcan 42: @zecoxao the bootldr keys are just as fail as the metldr keys, it's just that people suck at extracting them (no, don't ask us).

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by mirkie Peek and poke my friend...

I'm not sure It requires peek and poke to use linux/install it. But I'm not sure. Hopefully someone can get something...

[pratiko]

Originally Posted by TheBuzzer even if cloud computing to find the key, it is still too long to brute force. the best way is we need some super smart math guy. we know that the newer eboots are encrypted with the same key. we also could get unencrypted eboots from the ram. so we need some super smart math guy to come out with a method to narrow down the calculation based on the eboots we have. the formula should be the same so we are just missing the key but we got the start and end so if someone reorder the formula we might get the key that is the middle.

super smart math guy here.

it can't be done mathematically. you've got to get a random number that the ps3 calculates to do it, which, initially sounds like something that can be done, since computers can't do random numbers, but instead got a string of numbers ready to pull out as "random". but that was many years ago, right now, computers can calculate random numbers that depend on the current machine temperature, the power of the fan, the wind, etc. things you can't control.

so, there's no way of getting it mathematically. think of it as an equation of two variables, there's an infinite number of possibilities.

what made it easy to get the keys before was that this random number was actually a constant that we didn't know, so if you've got two equations with 2 variables, from which one is the same for both, then they get cancelled and you can just get the remaining variables, as you've got 2 equations.

any questions just ask, I read quite a lot about this keys obtaining stuff and am pretty good at math.

[Gonzakpo]

@marcan 42: @zecoxao the bootldr keys are just as fail as the metldr keys, it's just that people suck at extracting them (no, don't ask us).

Wow, just wow! This means that getting the bootldr keys is actually possible. I mean, he was one of the first PS3 jb creators (fail0verflow team) so we can for sure trust him. Also, this means that he knows how to do it. I wonder how many devs knows this too. This could totally open the PS3 forever and ever. No more FW updates would block us!

I hope this information leaks someday. Why can they just release it anonymously? I mean, if you can hack the PS3, you can for sure release something anonymously. But well, I wish I had his knowledge. Or I wish he would give us the mortals some hints.

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by Gonzakpo Wow, just wow! This means that getting the bootldr keys is actually possible. I mean, he was one of the first PS3 jb creators (fail0verflow team) so we can for sure trust him. Also, this means that he knows how to do it. I wonder how many devs knows this too. This could totally open the PS3 forever and ever. No more FW updates would block us! I hope this information leaks someday. Why can they just release it anonymously? I mean, if you can hack the PS3, you can for sure release something anonymously. But well, I wish I had his knowledge. Or I wish he would give us the mortals some hints.

Why would they want to? Anyone can do it, so the blame won't be on them.

[Siggy12]

get the key via software is almost impossible probably via TEST PS3 or CEX converted hopes can be probably more but i doubt it... for sure there isn't a string[] mykey = GetKeys(); :D the only way is via hardware for say practice or think in this way....if PS3 use them means that PS3 have built in them and just hide it to you but the funny thing is that use them in front your eyes always for every kind of operation YOU DO with the system.