[jennys]

Originally Posted by HulkWogan @jennys what's with the holier than thou attitude? why you feel the need to belittle users at every opportunity is beyond me, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. There's no reason to be that guy.

Perhaps you're misjudging some of my posts as the majority of them I am trying to convey knowledge to assist people in not making mistakes. I think that encouraging the average user to convert is misguided, but not all of them do not have the capacity to learn. I'm sure a percentage will take this opportunity to develop their PS3 hacking skills further and hopefully end up with a DEX.

For the most part I am just trying to hang out and get along, but if someone starts crap with me over something I said in such a demeaning manner that I take it as an insult I will not hesitate to confront them.

There are many, many more people on this forum who belittle users, other sites, users on other sites and developers at any chance they get and sometimes randomly without reason or just cause. I think you call them trolls, but since they edit silly pictures and curse at the popular people to put down they are left alone. I think these are the people that need addressing, but then again I really have no power to do that.

I'm sorry you interpret my attitude as if I am better then everyone else, but thank you for your concern. You're also correct we're way off topic and like others I am not helping that at all. I apologize.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by jennys I know and I think if you're capable of performing the conversion then you're 1UP on the Dongles, but sadly the general population simply do not have the skills to convert their console. When you think about it the 3.55 CFW "gang" is rather slim compared to other "open" consoles. So you've already got a niche market and out of that market only a low percentage can convert from CEX -> DEX. So it's not a viable solution for the majority of CFW users and the TB is. Since the process is relatively easy for someone like me to do I would go the CEX -> DEX route in a split second - that is if I owned a CFW PS3. I'd never buy a TB, but that's not due to anything other then the fact I rarely play games and when I do the PS3 doesn't have much to offer then generic crap. Trust me, I agree with you.

i think it more common sense than skills to do the convert

[Cheesethief]

@jennys
Perhaps there is a reason behind why some people belittle devs or other sites. Perhaps it is because they are sick and tired of this "scene" being dragged down by those same entities. A prime example is CEX to DEX. Information being kept from the scene, from the end user, from devs outside the "elite" circle.

To bring this to the topic at hand, CEX to DEX could have killed tb long ago.

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[HulkWogan]

@jennys , honestly you have no reason to apologise and you have every right to post how you see fit, yet for me and maybe only me some of the things you write can be misconstrued.

Having seen the decency of your reply it's safe to say I judged your character wrong.

Now back to the matter at hand..

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief @jennys Perhaps there is a reason behind why some people belittle devs or other sites. Perhaps it is because they are sick and tired of this "scene" being dragged down by those same entities. A prime example is CEX to DEX. Information being kept from the scene, from the end user, from devs outside the "elite" circle. Herp Derp Tapatalk 2

I have to disagree in that point. But i can agree with you If you can see the SCENE as a whole, and unique and solid united entity, in that case i can say = it's right to share everything that every single dev, user, not dev, conspirancy believer user, (you name it) knows. (Something that clearly is not happening).

But the dev (even if that inner circle or elite one exists) that done some serious research about certain topic and want to keep it in *secret* after all is HIS work and his will.
No one can force him to publish something that he don't want to and in first place no one forced HIM to do his research.

In that part im on the side of the devs, bah common sense.
Nobody can force you to do something that you don't want to do. If you don't want to share your secrets with me, fine. Im ok with that (following this line of tought). Because knowing your secret or your OWN research compromises me as well if something goes wrong.
You will start to *doubt* and get paranoid about the ones who you trusted in first place and finally if something that you told me get posted all over the place. The chain of trust will be broken, and you will never trust in ME as well in others for some long time.

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 /snip

True, they can keep it to themselves if they want to; however, giving it out on a elite club level is what I find wrong. Especially when a scene is on life support, like it was prior to the CEX to DEX release.

This scene was supposed to get rid of DRM, but it just incorporated its own. When that DRM could have been removed, none of the in the know elite club did anything about it even when they had the means. Took someone with actual kahonies to release anonymously (a difficult concept in this ego driven scene). Perhaps a bit detrimental to devs with fake dex's in that Sony may or may not ban their consoles/stop them from working.

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[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief True, they can keep it to themselves if they want to, however giving it out on a elite club level is what I find wrong. Especially when a scene is on life support, like it was prior to the CEX to DEX release. This scene was supposed to get rid of DRM, but it just incorporated its own. When that DRM could be removed, none of the in the know elite club did anything about it even when they had the means. Took someone with actual kahonies to release anonymously (a difficult concept in this ego driven scene). Perhaps a bit detrimental to devs with fake dex's in that Sony may or may not ban their consoles/stop them from working. Herp Derp Tapatalk 2

If you know the elite club, send me an invite. I see that wrong too. But i don't know about an inner circle or just VIP club where some *heavy weights* hangs in from time to time and share in some weird aristocratic way their findings.

I can imagine one, but i don't know their existence.
Scene is on life support (and will be for some long time, if some situations or attitudes don't change), now CEX>DEX gave some *placebo* effect of going forward when in some point we are going backwards.
So if the scene it's in comatose state, now it's worse.
Problem is, i can point fingers too. But to whom?, blaming others for this dark days that the SCENE as well the users see and saw will not do any better.

Sometimes it's all smoke and mirrors, and some nice and well executed magic tricks.
Now, with this method (for me) partially released. Well...you don't need to use your third eye to guess what's gonna happen.

[letusrule]

Sometimes it's all smoke and mirrors, and some nice and well executed magic tricks.
Now, with this method (for me) partially released. Well...you don't need to use your third eye to guess what's gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

What's gonna happen next Hellsing?

[hellsing9]

@letusrule

This:

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 If you know the elite club, send me an invite. I see that wrong too. But i don't know about an inner circle or just VIP club where some *heavy weights* hangs in from time to time and share in some weird aristocratic way their findings. I can imagine one, but i don't know their existence. Scene is on life support (and will be for some long time, if some situations or attitudes don't change), now CEX>DEX gave some *placebo* effect of going forward when in some point we are going backwards. So if the scene it's in comatose state, now it's worse. Problem is, i can point fingers too. But to whom?, blaming others for this dark days that the SCENE as well the users see and saw will not do any better. Sometimes it's all smoke and mirrors, and some nice and well executed magic tricks. Now, with this method (for me) partially released. Well...you don't need to use your third eye to guess what's gonna happen.

By elite I mean just a group of devs that trusts each other. Probably well-known devs. I did not mean to make it sound like some sort of conspiracy.

I can't see what comes next, but DEX is a good jump start for the scene. As filthy as it may seem to some to use a Sony fw to remove Sony DRM, it is the only current known way of both playing new games and keeping homebrew on pretty much the latest firmwares. I don't see anything wrong with it.


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