[mckenziesdaddy]

@killerninja oh I completely agree, I love a challenge also. We do not have pay TV, I use bit torrent for TV. So if I was to brick the PS3 our media player, I would have 2 women very pissed at me.

[pereb27]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 You pretty much answered the question. Conversion vs a Real DEX unit.

So while you're not answering my question (a converted DEX is still a DEX), I can interprete this sentence as "The difference is that a converted DEX would not be able to run DEX firmware if it wasn't for that conversion, while a real DEX console can run DEX firmware out-of-the box".
And this is where you're wrong.
First off, it doesn't matter if the console can run DEX FW out-of-the-box or requires conversion, since the result is the same.
Technically, a CEX unit can run a DEX firmware just fine.
However, the issue lies in the DEX firmware itself, not the console, as when you boot the console, the firmware will check the EID to determine if the console is CEX or DEX, and if it detects CEX, will refuse to boot. It's not that a CEX console cannot run DEX firmware, it's just a restriction that Sony put in place.
Obviously if the DEX firmware can check if the console is CEX or DEX, and refuse to boot if it detects CEX, it means DEX firmware CAN run on a non-converted CEX console (yes I know saying this is kinda stupid and that the result is the same, but that proves my point)
And that so-called "conversion" is simply a "bypass" for that check.
So yeah, the emulation thing you came up with is just stupid, no offense :P

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Note: The method (which it's not complete) as many other things still being researched and documented but still (i will avoid the emulation part since KDEbest hates it xD) If you do the conversion, on a retail unit converted it's possible that some more options already documented won't work.

If we were to compare this to Rebug, the ONLY reason most of the Debug features didn't work is that Rebug still used CEX CoreOS. The whole point of the conversion is so you can run DEX CoreOS without bricking because of the checks.
Although, your point may be true, since there is still that HDCP issue, however I highly doubt it is, since we knew about that since long before CEX>DEX was released, so if there were other things that didn't work, I believe we would know already.
(And for all we know it may just be a flag in Syscon, or maybe the RSX, that will disallow using that feature. It's probably not a hardware issue)

EDIT : Did some quick googling, the reason HDCP can't be disabled on converted CEX consoles is because the HDMI chip is programmed to not allow it (probably it's something required by the video industry or whatever for such devices), which once again is a software difference, since the HDMI chip would be the same, just its firmware would be different.
I also found another thing that's prohibited, which is running master discs via BD-R (in this case it's the BD firmware that's programmed not to allow it I guess), but you can still use the BD emulator for that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a fix for this, but I doubt people will bother, doesn't seem that important to me.

[aries2k]

@pshax mods
So since DEX is king of the hill any chance we can have a section for DEX?
It would be great to get all the info together in one place.

Long live the king

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by aries2k @pshax mods So since DEX is king of the hill any chance we can have a section for DEX? It would be great to get all the info together in one place. Long live the king

It's pirate's choice.

@pereb27 thanks for the info (really, not being ironic)

[itskamel]

Originally Posted by carldenning i can boot up 3.55 backups on 3.56+ dex with out peek and poke and with out the br emulator but only a selection of games would work

please do tell!

[DJ-1]

Originally Posted by DJ-1 OK, so out of curiosity.... what is the EIDV key in terms of 'rank' of all the keys ? Obviously the Sony Private key (theoretically) can't ever be pwn'd now since the crypto got fixed, Is the eidv key deeper than the per console key? Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

Anyone ?

Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

[aries2k]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 It's pirate's choice. @pereb27 thanks for the info (really, not being ironic)

Ok. I was just asking. I hope it didn´t seem like I was demanding it.

@pereb27
I just read the edit on your post.
I been driving myself crazy trying to get burned discs to run on DEX. Now I know why it´s not working. Thanks for the info, you just saved me alot of time and effort.

@itskamel
It`s the directboot method like we used in Geohot 3.55 CFW without peek and poke. I started to mess with this but I´m kind of a noob and haven´t figured out how to decrypt eboots or repackage something that isn´t a psn update patch.
hopefully carldenning we give us a little guide on the process

[dablakmark8]

Originally Posted by Twinkeltoe Uhm you do know you can install red ribbon from USB right?

Actually no, not according to my goggle search.If you can provide me a link to a tutorial i will be happy to try it.

Then i can actually save 76 usd
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Originally Posted by pereb27 Wouldn't it cost you less to install a laser and then do the conversion yourself? o.O

Actually no.In South Africa the laser for cechc04( single laser is 900 zar.Also this would be my 3rd laser and i am not spending anymore
money on that

Edit:OKi found a tutorial on a well known site.Busy downloading the pup and nand files.

[pereb27]

Originally Posted by dablakmark8 Actually no, not according to my goggle search.If you can provide me a link to a tutorial i will be happy to try it. Then i can actually save 76 usd ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* Actually no.In South Africa the laser for cechc04( single laser is 900 zar.Also this would be my 3rd laser and i am not spending anymore money on that Edit:OKi found a tutorial on a well known site.Busy downloading the pup and nand files.

You don't need a laser anyway, as soon as you have the logic board there wouldn't be a problem.
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Originally Posted by aries2k @pereb27 I just read the edit on your post. I been driving myself crazy trying to get burned discs to run on DEX. Now I know why it´s not working. Thanks for the info, you just saved me alot of time and effort.

Well, now that I think about it, people used to say you had to remarry the BD drive after converting to DEX. Maybe you could try that? (Although I wouldn't if you have a NAND unless you never plan on going back to CEX)

[Eboots]

Originally Posted by Eboots You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time People are saying that's the end of TB ....... and TB users will have to buy a new dongle. If this was even true (which I doubt) do you really think we'd rush out and buy another dongle after we've been treated so badly by TB (get real!!!),, there's no way on the face of this planet will all TB users go out and buy another dongle, I for sure wouldn't and I own TB & Cobra. So as far as I'm concerned TB will live on as long as there isn't a free solution.* The only thing that can kill TB is a free solution. Best thing E3 can do is offer an easier downgrading solution at a cost but give us the free solution to play all newer games on 3.55.. This would then kill TB but increase E3 sales in downgraders, so it would be win win for E3 and the scene. But*if they do decide to bring out another dongle to play newer games they'll probably only get support from (I'd say) 1/4 of the TB owners, and the Dildo haters definitely wouldn't purchase one (according to them) so where would they be making there money from? This would defiantly be a bad business by TB & E3 if they are infact the same company (which I doubt) Like I said at the start:*You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time

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