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Old 07-31-2012   #71
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Originally Posted by hamtah View Post
You what is funny? You and the other three do not know how to read. I am saying, for the millionth time, I DO NOT CARE IF THE OPINIONS ARE ON THIS SITE.
Dude, I don't think YOU read MY post. I never once singled you out saying that YOU want opinions off the front page. I just said that your comment makes it sound like everybody wants CFW/warez.

I may have worded it wrong and I apologize for that, but I did not once say any of which you are accusing me of.

Originally Posted by hamtah
I did not say I wanted a CFW, I did not say I wanted to pirate, I did not say I want this website opinion free. Do I need to spell out the above for you, or do you finally understand?
I guess i dont understand because nowhere before did you say those things, so nowhere before did i put those words into your mouth? This is what I quoted and commented on:

Originally Posted by hamtah
Thank for this amazing news. Now we can finally crack 4.21 and get the CFW we have been waiting for!

Oh wait... we can't.
That was EXACTLY WHAT I QUOTED THE FIRST TIME. You are right, nowhere were you talking about cfw/pirate/opinion/etc. I just commented on your comment. How it makes it sound like people just want warez. YOUR COMMENT. YOUR COMMENT YOUR COMMENT. NOT YOU. NOT YOU!!!! If it were somebody else who said it I would say the same exact thing. I used it to describe a general stank coming from the scene; not diving into a psuedo psychoanalytical process of your character derived some some forum post. I will leave that to the real shrinks.

I'm glad you've taken a journalism course. Maybe you can possibly help contribute to news posts in the future? Experience is never a bad thing. But, where did I challenge you?

In regards to the whole front page thing.. I honestly didn't know that we had to do things by the book like that? is there a written rule somewhere where news sites HAVE TO ADHERE TO A SPECIFIC AND STRICT table of carrying things out?

This is some dude's site. If he wants to put an opinion piece up, and let people by all means. This isn't The World News or any national publication. It's read by ps3 nerds and people who are interested in generally ps3 hacking/cracking/general related things.

front page front page front page front page front page front page front page opinion yeah i get it. I don't agree or disagree though. So back off, please.

AGAIN I WILL RE-ITERATE, my previous post WAS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU AS A PERSON OR USER. I just quoted you because I thought that your comment summed up what the general population thinks.

Sorry for that.

Keep your thoughts to yourself I guess (or to myself I should say).

I keep telling myself not to get caught up in this internet drama... things like these are too f_cking stupid to get worked up over.

Agree to disagree, I'm done. Sorry for the trouble. G'day.
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Old 07-31-2012   #72
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Dude, I don't think YOU read MY post. I never once singled you out saying that YOU want opinions off the front page. I just said that your comment makes it sound like everybody wants CFW/warez.

I may have worded it wrong and I apologize for that, but I did not once say any of which you are accusing me of.



I guess i dont understand because nowhere before did you say those things, so nowhere before did i put those words into your mouth? This is what I quoted and commented on:



That was EXACTLY WHAT I QUOTED THE FIRST TIME. You are right, nowhere were you talking about cfw/pirate/opinion/etc. I just commented on your comment. How it makes it sound like people just want warez. YOUR COMMENT. YOUR COMMENT YOUR COMMENT. NOT YOU. NOT YOU!!!! If it were somebody else who said it I would say the same exact thing. I used it to describe a general stank coming from the scene; not diving into a psuedo psychoanalytical process of your character derived some some forum post. I will leave that to the real shrinks.

I'm glad you've taken a journalism course. Maybe you can possibly help contribute to news posts in the future? Experience is never a bad thing. But, where did I challenge you?

In regards to the whole front page thing.. I honestly didn't know that we had to do things by the book like that? is there a written rule somewhere where news sites HAVE TO ADHERE TO A SPECIFIC AND STRICT table of carrying things out?

This is some dude's site. If he wants to put an opinion piece up, and let people by all means. This isn't The World News or any national publication. It's read by ps3 nerds and people who are interested in generally ps3 hacking/cracking/general related things.

front page front page front page front page front page front page front page opinion yeah i get it. I don't agree or disagree though. So back off, please.

AGAIN I WILL RE-ITERATE, my previous post WAS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU AS A PERSON OR USER. I just quoted you because I thought that your comment summed up what the general population thinks.

Sorry for that.

Keep your thoughts to yourself I guess (or to myself I should say).

I keep telling myself not to get caught up in this internet drama... things like these are too f_cking stupid to get worked up over.

Agree to disagree, I'm done. Sorry for the trouble. G'day.
Your post wasn't clear about what and who you were talking to. It felt like you were directly talking to me by saying how I just want warez. My apoligies for misinterpreting your post.

I understand there is no official rule of what goes on the front page and what doesn't, but I was simply stating what I felt about all these opinion peices. To be honest, there were no opinion peices on the front page before hellsing9became a moderator, and I liked it that way. I go on PS3HaX everyday to expect some progress or news on the scene, and if I see an opinion peice about how boobs should or should not be in video games, I assume that maybe on of the Ps3 Devs have stopped contributing because he is going on a boob protest.

Anyways, I don't care if hellsing9 or Annelies continue to post their opinions. I've said what I had to say on this thread, and if they want to pretend like my posts never existed, then let them.
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Old 07-31-2012   #73
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Your post wasn't clear about what and who you were talking to. It felt like you were directly talking to me by saying how I just want warez. My apoligies for misinterpreting your post.
I'm the one who should apologize; I write the same way I speak.. sort of. Even in the real world I substitute uncommon words in place of common words and don't fully articulate my thoughts into speech; more so like a visual puzzle with sounds.

I just lumped the quotes all in one section because (in my head) they all held relevance to each other and to what I wanted to say. Again, coming down to the way I talk. I do apologize.

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I understand there is no official rule of what goes on the front page and what doesn't, but I was simply stating what I felt about all these opinion peices. To be honest, there were no opinion peices on the front page before hellsing9became a moderator, and I liked it that way.
And I know exactly what you mean. There's no problem with stating how you feel about something. Just know that you will (in all likelyhood) piss somebody off no matter how gentle you put things. That's my experience anyway....

I was more targeting nomad and gambow(whateverspellinghisnameisguywhoisnowbanned) in the sense that the way they approached the whole fiasco was un-nice and just out to grind gears.

However, rather than form a narrow, negative or positive view on the whole spin, I chose simply to accept it and think of it as evolution in a way. The world is always changing and evolving. It's good to change things up a bit sometimes. If things were the same thing all the time we wouldn't get anywhere different or have new music to listen to (or hate). We wouldn't have ugly boobies and awesome boobies. We may even only have wiener.

But I get it. It's not normal by any means when you put everything into "meat and potatoe" like (basic) situations. Sometimes the "different" makes people/places/things stand out and helps to attract a different base of people.

And, no, I've never seen an opinion piece on the front page of a newspaper.
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Dude, I don't think YOU read MY post. I never once singled you out saying that YOU want opinions off the front page. I just said that your comment makes it sound like everybody wants CFW/warez.
WAIT! am i lost? is that not what we want? :D
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I agree with you. The banning was too much. You can't stablish a discussion with a mod if he is holding the ban hammer all the time.

Anyway, I personally think that this opinion posts should not be front paged. I mean, they are opinions. They are subjective. Not objective news. So, I don't think that Hax should have "an opinion". Because not everyone on Hax has to agree. Imagine I post a news about how I think that chickens will rule this world in the next 3 years. And it gets front paged. Does it mean that the whole Hax believes in this? No! And that's exactly why it shouldn't be front paged. Because it doesn't represent the whole community.

This is my opinion. You can respect me or not. But I think is too unfair to ban people for disagreeing with you. I think that Hax should limit to front page objective news. Not personal opinions.
Simple, you can't sustain a conversation with an user and two more talking **** and using their judgment in = instead of ignore or lift a proper complain about *abuse of power* they start to derail, about how ****ed up is the article posted and how it not news.

So it's 10 time better bash me or bash the article and let me snap from my position and start to *correct* patterns.

Si no sabes chabon, callate Queres meter tu punto de vista. Levanta una queja o fijate que queres hacer pero no des mas vuelta es la segunda que te engancho verdugueando donde NO te llamaron.

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@1somniac i wouldnt say "newsing" it was stupid although i would have to say it was without a doubt well written but more suited to a blog where all articles are personal views

newsing it says "this is factual" but its just a personal opinion

@hellsing9 you need to let people have an opinion. an important part of journalism is taking critique otherwise it leads to censorship and fear of voicing opinions. not taking things personally and looking at things from the readers perspective too

on topic:
i dont agree with the message. to me, the message is clear.
people like to drive around, shoot **** up, cause havok in games and the message is..........."do what you want and have fun, and thanks for buying the game"
I was MENTIONED on this thread, and when i see 3 hyenas triangulating certain spot to start a flame where is none, i use the god damn hammer that you also own as many other before me had.
I don't regret doing it to so.
If that were the case in any article i frontpage most of the messages that i don't like you will see deleted, edited, etc..you see that?. Me, no.

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You know what's the problem and not's even ME that's the biggest joke of all:

1) The longgggggg wait for a solution, (i experienced that as any user of hax) some HONEST response about what's being happening since early 2011.

2) Changes, people and users alike don't accept changes or don't want them to happen. I can understand that, i wanted to change a little bit the course of the frontpaged articles because i feel so. Not a personal *rant* just a point view of what i see being posted on a daily basis.

3) When people sees an article with some mixed up and *wrong* or *right* statements and it's not about the PS3 per se but about some behaviours in the community (that it's part of the whole scenario). They get mad!! Because they think im voicing my personal frustration as an user with an s-mod status.

As i say many times if you don't like the editorial that the s-mod uses = ignore it.
I bet that if this happens to greg's will ended worst than in a infract or *ban* vacation.

So long story short, even if most of you disagree in my way of acting on THIS thread. You can't blame for use the hammer.
I was in WORST situations and the ones who KNOWS me can really check that im not lying.
I used it, because as same as some of you i got grow tired of deal with *scarce news syndrome* and what you think a *blog type article*, i grow tired on that moment of users commenting anything NOT related to the topic starting in the first page.

Thanks.

P.s: Im HUMAN too, not a friggin bot. I have other things to attend to or do, and when i come here it's breathe some *fresh virtual* air and all i found is unnecessary violence. Make me snap, deal with the consequences as i dealt many times before.

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2) Changes, people and users alike don't accept changes or don't want them to happen.
I'm not any kind of fan of changes; big or small. I live my life trying to keep everything organized how I like it with as little change as possible haha.

But changes let us evolve, and move forward. If we don't change it can only hold us back from new and different (with possibly better) things.

My friend mentioned the other night about how America (specifically named from the article he read) doesn't dream big anymore. How 50-60 years ago they would dream big, and conceptualize all kinds of groovy and cool, adventurous ideas/products. Then all of a sudden, everything became more and more about the money and less and less about how we can evolve and move on.

People these days lack direction, creativity and motivation. In all seriousness, I can't really blame anybody or myself for feeling that way as it's been a long time in the making.
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I'm not any kind of fan of changes; big or small. I live my life trying to keep everything organized how I like it with as little change as possible haha.

But changes let us evolve, and move forward. If we don't change it can only hold us back from new and different (with possibly better) things.

My friend mentioned the other night about how America (specifically named from the article he read) doesn't dream big anymore. How 50-60 years ago they would dream big, and conceptualize all kinds of groovy and cool, adventurous ideas/products. Then all of a sudden, everything became more and more about the money and less and less about how we can evolve and move on.

People these days lack direction, creativity and motivation. In all seriousness, I can't really blame anybody or myself for feeling that way as it's been a long time in the making.
Changes makes people mad. Because if you tell someone to stop on his daily rutine of going to work/school/etc for 5 minutes only to think what he done or why he is doing certain task and they will don't know how to reply to that or they will go into a defensive position.

We are *machines* and in the worst case just numbers, to repeat something over and over again.
The one who wants to fight against that tidal wave of people that already has an imaginary chip on their heads and makes responses like a answering machine...well the odds are too many to count and to process and *kill*.

You can't free yourself from payed slavery as work. You have to play by their own rules, even in a friggin game.
But there are people that are open minded, and try to make that change.
Shame that if they don't have enough *stamina* to keep it going they will end being a mediocre individual like the rest.

People always get's mad/angry (and show signs of fear) about a change because you don't know, you have no control over that.
The fear of the unknown, what will happen?!?.

But well, i embrace that kind of changes even if they are for worst. I can see the bright side of things sometimes.
But some users don't fully understand that being in a community can generate certain *stress*, you have to engage sometimes others don't, others recieve an unwelcome message about something you did right.
You are the primary objective to any kind of virulent commentary.
And here as any board is the same.

If you don't engage and you don't go by the rules (you can bend them time to time) you don't get respect.
Now me being a moderator if i *fail* on my book of *laws and rules* i have to face some consequences. (happened before).

But above all that, im human not a damn bot.
Like you or anybody here. You being a mod don't means that you are demi-god in this lands.
You are an user with the power to correct some patterns and *clean* the board from spam or whatever you want and can do.

That's the part that bothers me, we have to deliver always but they don't go easy on us.
Sometimes happens the *fight the autorithy* situation because the user/s had a bad day, well. Not my problem xD


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@hellsing9 i prefer not to ban someone, unless they really deserve it, i prefer to talk it over with them or infract.
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@hellsing9 i prefer not to ban someone, unless they really deserve it, i prefer to talk it over with them or infract.
I know your position and i know how you move greg, you are 10 times faster than me. And you know how i move at this rate. (how many months moderating and with s-mod, not too much but enough *experience* bad/mediocre/well to know how i move in here)
The situation was given this way *sadly* i infracted because is part of our *job* to do it. Sometimes i abused of the infracts (you warned me).

But this situation on this thread really crossed a limit.
If the OP in this case @Annelies in the first or 3 posts that he recieved was the same ol' story = *This is no PS3 news*.
Well im tired to engage or read the same broken record all over again.
In ONE day.

Maybe was not my call, i can undo my wrong and i can talk later.
But again (you know better than me) that i learned what i know today in the *worst* way.

But this comments that i infracted, except *hamtah* were very stupid and you can't talk with someone who is constant denial. (not me).
I warned, then infracted.

I repeat i know that you don't like to infract and ban but sometimes when talking don't work or insulting each other (i started as you saw) don't worked neither to put a brake on the situation an infract is given.

Im tired of repeat the same, if someone is not comfortable with my labor here.
Grow a pair of balls to the user who can't stand me and lift a proper complain about my behaviour on the proper section.
If not, well. I don't have much to say anymore about this.

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"...you have exactly two options:
  1. Have me removed from staff.
  2. Become a news writer and show me how it's done.
Posting an opinion piece on the front page is okay on a slow day, but not the day E3 announces that the PS3 scene is finally moving

Although the article is quite decently written, one could probably argue that Pac-Man or Super Mario conveys the same message as GTA

Stating "I'll post whatever I want on the front-page" should indeed get you removed from the staff.
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