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Old 08-11-2012   #1
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DYN-001 Teensy TRIST_N always LOW

hey

after searching for days for a solution for my problem i found this forum. hope
someone can help me.

i tried to DEX my PS3 slim, but i bricked it - i have a working backup of the flash.
so i bought a teensy board and installed it according to -> http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Hardware_flashing

then i ran norway 0.5. it recognised the flash at the first run.
i tried dumping -> worked
i tried erasing -> worked -> checked with HxD
then i tried writing back my backup -> nope

then i searched the internet to find someone with the same problems.
TRISTATE is somehow the problem. in my case it is always LOW - i checked my soldering - fine
tried every combination of powering up teensy and ps3 - none worked


so what should i do?!?
PLEASE help me to bring back life to my PS3!!!!
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Old 08-11-2012   #2
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Question just guessing......

isn't the "write command" changed in final 0.5/beta0.6, did not test those versions yet..
i had some problems with dumping bad dumps using a 0.5 beta3
0.5 beta4 worked fine as the older 0.4 for dump and write
btw, mine is also, i guess always TRIST_N=LOW and works fine with it

i attach the NORway.py 0.5 beta working fine here, try it out, no harm done if u have good backups, remove the .txt extension..
command
NORway.py COMx write flash.bin

i figured if this version works, i'm not testing anything else although each update must be better ofcourse, for the latest i'm not really sure of the "write" command used, that's why i stick with attached 0.5 BETA
MD5: 76bb958b8c746c84f375a1e77500499c

edit
wel yeah like i said..just guessing
TRIST_N=LOW shouldn't be a problem tho..
goodluck with fix

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hey

just tried it
same problem - retry........

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so,

now i tried to write back an erased chip dump - worked

but why i cannot write back the original dump? it has éxactly the same size?

btw: the flash backup was created with dump_flash.pkg
hope this is compatible with norway....

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Old 08-13-2012   #5
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Question

i just tested a dump_flash dump and a Teensy dump from same console/setup
the dumps are identical, haven't tested flashing back a dumpflash dump with teensy, but why would it not work as the dumps are a match

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Originally Posted by datemorphi View Post
hey

after searching for days for a solution for my problem i found this forum. hope
someone can help me.

i tried to DEX my PS3 slim, but i bricked it - i have a working backup of the flash.
so i bought a teensy board and installed it according to -> http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Hardware_flashing

then i ran norway 0.5. it recognised the flash at the first run.
i tried dumping -> worked
i tried erasing -> worked -> checked with HxD
then i tried writing back my backup -> nope

then i searched the internet to find someone with the same problems.
TRISTATE is somehow the problem. in my case it is always LOW - i checked my soldering - fine
tried every combination of powering up teensy and ps3 - none worked


so what should i do?!?
PLEASE help me to bring back life to my PS3!!!!
follow my guide HERE
if you have the volt reg then remove it. keep the 5v track cut and keep the 3.3v bridged and connect the vcc to the ps3
this is the new way to connect the TEENSY++
please use my guide. and report here in your thread your results so others with this problem can see when / how you solved it

Originally Posted by haz367 View Post
i just tested a dump_flash dump and a Teensy dump from same console/setup
the dumps are identical, haven't tested flashing back a dumpflash dump with teensy, but why would it not work as the dumps are a match
there was a problem with some ps3 boards when flashing. this has now been solved with the new TEENSY++ board setup (by not using the volt reg etc)
try the guide i posted and follow it step by step (except exchange your origional "backup" dump after the dumping step )

Originally Posted by haz367 View Post
isn't the "write command" changed in final 0.5/beta0.6, did not test those versions yet..
type "write flash.bin" and if you have the problem samsung NOR it will detect and change it on its own to "writewordubm flash.bin" there are more changes but i think this is the relevent one for your quote

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so,

now i tried to write back an erased chip dump - worked

but why i cannot write back the original dump? it has éxactly the same size?

btw: the flash backup was created with dump_flash.pkg
hope this is compatible with norway....
the NorWay program will flash back to the console only what is different.

so if the dump you are flashing back is the dump you have just made then there is nothing to flash back so it will go through the motions and give you a compleated message at the end (although it didnt write ANYTHING as there the same)

now your origional "backup" dump is different so its trying to write the differences back but it fail's this time as it is actually trying to write.

i assume you have the volt reg soldered so when remove it and connect the vcc to the ps3 (DO NOT TURN THE PS3 ON WHEN THIS IS CONNECTED infact remove the ps3's power cable and put it out of reach) then you will find it will now write & flash your NOR

but follow my guide so you can be sure it is done correctly

btw if your "backup" was created via a console dump eg via linux / a pkg etc then you dont have a full dump.

hardware flashers can read / write / erase the whole NOR where ps3 run software can only dump "most" not "all"
so if you have erased it then flash back your TEENSY++ dumped dump then flash back your "backup" dump or you will have parts missing.

(i know thats confusing but trust me on this as you could end up thinking you have messed something else up if/when the ps3 doesnt boot when actually its just some of the dump thats missing)

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Question thx

great info as usual @baileyscream , mine is the old setup(+vreg) and have no problems, it's "spansion", and using NORway 0.5 final, nice to see it fixed for all ps3boards, once it's running it's such a great little device, once u have one u aint wanna get back to E3, and ur setup is perfect btw using "male/female" connectors for easy removal , mine is fixed by Mushy to hard a job for me so i'll trew in the towel and send it off, great guy and great service, very much recommended

ok, the last quote u made, i have no problems with the Teensy setup(+vreg) on cechl04/spansion NOR, and yes i'm sticking with the build that worked to downgrade it from OFW4.20 back to 3.55, if if aint broke..no need to fix
can't say for "software" dump as luckily not required on my end, but WHY would the "write" fail if it's a CLEAN/complete dump, NORway should "write" it back no matter wich OFW/CFW is in the ros folders?

the issue is the vreg on samsung then right, if totally wrong on this..forget what i wrote heh i noticed the topic/TRIST_N=LOW, that's why i responded cuse mine is always LOW and working fine

anyways...keep up the good work and thx for the great tutorials baileyscream
and @datemorphi suc6 on the fix
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excuse upfront, i just don't get this part, i have 2 dumps, 1 made by softwareflasher/dump_flash.pkg, compared against a NORway dump, everything is identical,statistics, erasing the NOR and writing back the dump_flash.pkg one should just work, it's the same
anyway, i'm out of the topic cuse i don't wanna hijack this topic
thx for all the tips either way..it's appreciated



Originally Posted by baileyscream View Post

btw if your "backup" was created via a console dump eg via linux / a pkg etc then you dont have a full dump.

hardware flashers can read / write / erase the whole NOR where ps3 run software can only dump "most" not "all"
so if you have erased it then flash back your TEENSY++ dumped dump then flash back your "backup" dump or you will have parts missing.

(i know thats confusing but trust me on this as you could end up thinking you have messed something else up if/when the ps3 doesnt boot when actually its just some of the dump thats missing)
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Originally Posted by haz367 View Post
great info as usual @baileyscream , mine is the old setup(+vreg) and have no problems, it's "spansion", and using NORway 0.5 final, nice to see it fixed for all ps3boards, once it's running it's such a great little device, once u have one u aint wanna get back to E3, and ur setup is perfect btw using "male/female" connectors for easy removal , mine is fixed by Mushy to hard a job for me so i'll trew in the towel and send it off, great guy and great service, very much recommended
what are you finding hard?

ok, the last quote u made, i have no problems with the Teensy setup(+vreg) on cechl04/spansion NOR, and yes i'm sticking with the build that worked to downgrade it from OFW4.20 back to 3.55, if if aint broke..no need to fix
but if your also having problems (finding it hard as mentioned above) then why not try it without the volt reg way?

can't say for "software" dump as luckily not required on my end, but WHY would the "write" fail if it's a CLEAN/complete dump, NORway should "write" it back no matter wich OFW/CFW is in the ros folders?
if you have only dumped checked it and wrote it back then the NorWay wont actualy write anything but if its say a patched dump then it should write the patched part back only as the rest is identicle.
if it wont the n try the other write commands to see if ANY will work.
if none work then make another dump and check it then try moving the TEENSY++ a little bit so the wires move (but dont pull as the solder pads can pull off the motherboard) and do another dump as if you have a faulty wire it may now show in the dump


the issue is the vreg on samsung then right, if totally wrong on this..forget what i wrote heh i noticed the topic/TRIST_N=LOW, that's why i responded cuse mine is always LOW and working fine
when i did the guide i was lucky enough to have the problem samsung NOR.
when it came to writing it wouldnt write so after many messages with judges he relesed the 0.5 final that included detecting this NOR chip and changing the write command on the fly.
this problem is that it has no catch so it would fail.
then i also had a problem with using the TEENSY++ as a fsm tool while connected to the ps3 as it would carry on halting the ps3 so judges then altered the fsm program for the TEENSY++ but i still had this problem so i tried removing the volt reg and it worked.
so i figure if this keeps sending voltage when it should stop or if there is another issue with a smal number of ppl when writing then this should solve it (the writing part is my own opinion but it should work)


anyways...keep up the good work and thx for the great tutorials baileyscream
and @datemorphi suc6 on the fix
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excuse upfront, i just don't get this part, i have 2 dumps, 1 made by softwareflasher/dump_flash.pkg, compared against a NORway dump, everything is identical,statistics, erasing the NOR and writing back the dump_flash.pkg one should just work, it's the same
anyway, i'm out of the topic cuse i don't wanna hijack this topic
thx for all the tips either way..it's appreciated
your not hijacking a topic your responding to a quote.

ok thats strange as the dumps are supposed to be different sizes to start with.
and i think it is in the wiki somewhere (i will have to check. i just noted that software dumps are not full dumps and left it as that) that linux doesnt do a full dump

actually thinking about it i could be mistaking it for NAND dumps. that would make more sense

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@baileyscream , lol
i found hard to have enough patience to finish the job, although my soldering wasn't bad(confirmed) but i wasn't sure of it, gave in and made contact with a solder pro, he then re-soldered the Teensy and i'm good, sometimes a guy have to admit defeat, keep in mind i never soldered fine stuff before so a bit way of my head, and maibe i could have done it myself, i'm sure its great feeling if one finish this project on his one..it was to hard for me btw Mushy got some stuff in the make (WIP Dual boot Teensy) i've seen a picture, he sure knows his stuff..okay enough about my crappy solderjob


i have no problem with Teensy/NORway apart from build 0.5 beta3?!, only that build didn't work for my setup = 0000/zero bytes dumps..each time, also "judges" can't tell the problem why only zero's on that build and "spansion NOR".. beats me to, i only know the setup was tested&working with NORway 0.4(only dumps!!) i then updated to OFW4.20 and downgraded back with "patched" dump, worked for 04/0.5 Beta 5?(the one attached) and 0.5 final, have not tested 0.6 beta
only with one NORway build i had problems yes, it can't be the setup if u ask me
and the softwaredump vs hardware dump, atleast for me they are identical, it may be different for NAND, i've seen it mentioned a couple times before, cex2dex thing/linux, verified those dumps against hardware/e3 dumps, also the same

about the topicstarter's situation, i'm not sure, if the software dump is clean, why would it not work and because he asked about TRIST_N=LOW being his problem, i responded it should be OK as mine is the same and working, if all this is fixed by removing the voltage regulator and also fixing a FSM problem..great stuff, i have not seen this on my end+using a FSM dongle anyway, but hey i'm just another guy who can't pro solder so wtf i'm doing in the topic hehe thx for clearing up some NORway confusion, only problem after this it confuses me even more lol....oh well it works..its all good...

the softwaredump @datemorphi have there is cex-cfw355 before bricking, sure the dump is verified? or did u mispatch/dex it and bricked because of that? if the second and cexdump is OK, it should write it back, atleast we all think it should right...try diff builds..i'm just trowing ideas u might have considered already goodluck anyway!
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Originally Posted by baileyscream View Post
follow my guide HERE

but follow my guide so you can be sure it is done correctly

btw if your "backup" was created via a console dump eg via linux / a pkg etc then you dont have a full dump.

hardware flashers can read / write / erase the whole NOR where ps3 run software can only dump "most" not "all"
so if you have erased it then flash back your TEENSY++ dumped dump then flash back your "backup" dump or you will have parts missing.

(i know thats confusing but trust me on this as you could end up thinking you have messed something else up if/when the ps3 doesnt boot when actually its just some of the dump thats missing)
why its not a full dump? it has exactly the same size as it has when i dump the nor flash with teensy board! i did it with a pkg tool NOT linux - screen turned black and flash was written onto usb drive
i chekced my SW flashdump according to the teensy tutorial - it should be a correct dump!
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the softwaredump @datemorphi have there is cex-cfw355 before bricking, sure the dump is verified? or did u mispatch/dex it and bricked because of that? if the second and cexdump is OK, it should write it back, atleast we all think it should right...try diff builds..i'm just trowing ideas u might have considered already goodluck anyway!
what i wanted to do was to make my ps3 to dex
with the flash dump + eid0 i created a dex flash -> tool said its ok
then i tried to flash it back with asbestloader but failed - this all happened BEFORE the easy to use tools arrived ;-(

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