[MARA87]

Fashion Hitler approves

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Bad taste, but seriously, when is the world going to let WW2 and the c*nts on ALL sides drop? Hitler was a sad waste of space, but religion world-wide does worse than he did all the time. They just do it in a different way. Also, in the grand scheme of things, the things he actually had a direct hand in pale into insignificance compared with the sick things a certain set of united states did in 'mini' wars like Vietnam. Moral of the story is......... Don't throw pooh when your own fan is pointing back at your face, and let it drop for the love of *insert chosen deity here* lol

Seriously? A total of 2 million Vietnamese died. That includes North and South. Civilian and Soldier. Hitler killed three times as many Jews alone. That doesn't include casualties of war, members of his own cabinet, Officers who refused to follow orders, etc. Gas chambers, shooting squads, starvation, burning people alive...don't know how that is worse than any other way. There was also rapings and torture by Nazi officers. Personally, I wouldn't differentiate the two. There should have never been a Vietnam war, but still.

Religion is just a cop out. Those same people who kill in the name of religion are murderers and would do so without religion. They would just find a different excuse. Here's 10 atheists who killed in the name of atheism without religion or has given atheism a bad name.

Alfred Kinsey(Well, he didn't kill but exploiting children for sex is a worse crime as far as I'm concerned)

Adolph Hitler(His whole coup was centered on the anti-clerical French Revolution)

Tan Shwe(Has the highest numbers of child soldiers in his army in the world)

Kim Jong Il

Jeffrey Dahmer

Jim Jones(Many argue that he wasn't atheist but this is the reason he gave for his actions, “I took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism”)

Benito Mussolini

Mao Zedong(Estimated to be responsible for 20 million to 60 million deaths.)

Pol Pot(He would have people executed with hammers just for wearing glasses)

Josef Stalin(Estimated to have killed upwards of 60 million people and shooting more than 100,000 priests. He leveled the Russian orthodox church)

[donglehater]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Bad taste, but seriously, when is the world going to let WW2 and the c*nts on ALL sides drop? Hitler was a sad waste of space, but religion world-wide does worse than he did all the time. They just do it in a different way. Also, in the grand scheme of things, the things he actually had a direct hand in pale into insignificance compared with the sick things a certain set of united states did in 'mini' wars like Vietnam. Moral of the story is......... Don't throw pooh when your own fan is pointing back at your face, and let it drop for the love of *insert chosen deity here* lol

Your a good guy Wolfie so I dont like disagreeing with you, but I fail to see how anything that occured during Vietnam could compare to the intentional murder of nearly 6 million Jews.

[Mr.Dutch]

lol, i forsee people hating me for starting this thread...

ah, what the hell, most members allready hate me anyway.

i probably should go back to the forum game....

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Seriously? A total of 2 million Vietnamese died. That includes North and South. Civilian and Soldier. Hitler killed three times as many Jews alone. That doesn't include casualties of war, members of his own cabinet, Officers who refused to follow orders, etc. Gas chambers, shooting squads, starvation, burning people alive...don't know how that is worse than any other way. There was also rapings and torture by Nazi officers. Personally, I wouldn't differentiate the two. There should have never been a Vietnam war, but still. Yes, seriously, or did you intentionally miss the bit where I said what Hitler had a direct hand in? Plus WW2 was started from an ideal, a VERY wrong ideal, but an ideal nonetheless. Vietnam and such like were started for monetary and power gains Religion is just a cop out. Those same people who kill in the name of religion are murderers and would do so without religion. They would just find a different excuse. Here's 10 atheists who killed in the name of atheism without religion or has given atheism a bad name. Correct, it is a cop-out, but the difference in an individual using it as a cop-out and what is a factual occurrence Every second of Every day is that the religion itself, then it's spokespeople, then it's devout followers etc etc maim people, kill people, torture people... Do I Really need to go on??? Alfred Kinsey(Well, he didn't kill but exploiting children for sex is a worse crime as far as I'm concerned) I will skip this one as war and child abuse are not linked in any way at all, but feel free to start a new thread on it and I will gladly quote my list of 10 ways to torture a 'kiddy fiddler' Adolph Hitler(His whole coup was centered on the anti-clerical French Revolution) I never said he was a nice man did I? Tan Shwe(Has the highest numbers of child soldiers in his army in the world) Highest number, or highest percentage? Kim Jong Il Jeffrey Dahmer Jim Jones(Many argue that he wasn't atheist but this is the reason he gave for his actions, “I took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism”) Benito Mussolini Mao Zedong(Estimated to be responsible for 20 million to 60 million deaths.) Pol Pot(He would have people executed with hammers just for wearing glasses) Josef Stalin(Estimated to have killed upwards of 60 million people and shooting more than 100,000 priests. He leveled the Russian orthodox church)

I could go on and on with this, but my point is that HUMANS are a sick set of scum who as a species are equally guilty.

Nothing, and I repeat nothing is stopping us as a species from ending ALL wars and conflicts, but as a species we do NOT want peace, we want sickness and twisted feelings of power and corruption.

Oh and just in case my bit about a certain set of united states was taken as a dig against the USA, it was not. The USA are a good example of things, and that is mainly because of their position in the global power scheme, but on a purely percentile scale of past doings, the English are the biggest butchers and sick scum on the planet.

Simple solution to it all is wipe humans out, but as that will not happen, we should all stop harping on about Hitler and the like as NO lessons have been learned from it. We are still sick, and we still kill, torture, and maim because for the majority, it is 'justified'

*Goes back to throwing fluffy mice at my cats lol*
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Originally Posted by Mr.Dutch lol, i forsee people hating me for starting this thread... ah, what the hell, most members allready hate me anyway. i probably should go back to the forum game....

I think you're cute and cuddly lol

Things like this always raise emotions and we all have our own opinions.

I have mine and they may be total pants, but until I know different, they are still my opinions.

Only a total idiot believes he is 100% correct in an opinion, and I have no problem with being wrong lol

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by donglehater Your a good guy Wolfie so I dont like disagreeing with you, but I fail to see how anything that occured during Vietnam could compare to the intentional murder of nearly 6 million Jews.

He wasn't just referring to Vietnam, he was referring to every and all criminal wars that America has started under false pretences, in which case he has a point, the American government is responsible for hundreds of thousands of murders of innocent civilians, some of those illegal wars are:

Korea
Vietnam
Iraq war 2
Afghan War(Where ironically US soldiers are being killed by guns given to the Afghans, by the US)

America also stands back and allows Israel to murder Palestinian women and children, America supply Israel with weapons to shoot children in the face, America even let one of its own civilians murder by an Israeli to go unpunished, Hitler was an Evil Bastard, but it seems that by killing all those Jewish people, he also taught them how to be just as Evil.

On to Stalin, he was a complete nob head, he killed everything that Lenin had thrived to build, he murdered millions, stuck people in the Gulags, made them go to war under pretence of freedom from the Gulags, only to stick them back in the Gulags after WWII.

[donglehater]

Its funny how on one hand you state America is responsible for starting wars under false pretence and we are also responsible when we do nothing at all. Based on your logic America has no way of looking good in your eyes, but its all good..........we are used to that in the US.

[psyki]

Originally Posted by donglehater Its funny how on one hand you state America is responsible for starting wars under false pretence and we are also responsible when we do nothing at all. Based on your logic America has no way of looking good in your eyes, but its all good..........we are used to that in the US.

america is just scapegoat in todays society, in the scheme of things the US is as much a puppet as the rest of the world and the same organizations responsible for the holocaust are still waging the wars today.

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by donglehater Its funny how on one hand you state America is responsible for starting wars under false pretence and we are also responsible when we do nothing at all. Based on your logic America has no way of looking good in your eyes, but its all good..........we are used to that in the US.

Standing back and allowing something is not the same as doing nothing.

The point is that a choice is made to stand back and let things happen as that benefits the USA.

Like I said though, it's mainly because of the USA's place in the scales. I doubt anyone else would be different really.

As to being used to it, blame your countries spokespeople. The UK ones may be idiots, but without starting a net-war here, Mr Bush cemented your country's image as being 'gung-ho' and ruled by a man with the brain capacity of a gerbil lol

[donglehater]

Well, I am not the elected spokesperson for the US so I will leave standing up for her to someone more qualified.