[Youkia]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt After reading some of this thread all I want to do is facepalm..... I didn't know the scene I used to love so much was full of so many idiots and not just people that haven't been around long. I am seeing long time members say some dumb ****. ODDE is hardware. There is no way to do it via software so no it cannot be free....sorry to all you cheap bastards out there that believe they are entitled to everything for free. An ODDE will give you the ability to probably play all the warez you want and use PSN, and I hate to put it like this but that is all 90% of the people that even bothered posting in this thread want anyway. This is not a MFW and will never be a MFW. You can tell me that you are in this for the homebrew, but how many pieces of homebrew have you loaded more than loading your backup manager? I was actually in this same argument this morning. To those crying about a device you have to pay for, you obviously werent around other console scenes or the modchip era. You really need to get over this thing about being entitled to everything for free. Of course I was having a debate with a guy that also told me charging for a downgrade service was wrong, and he also thinks ODDE can be done without any hardware..... Now by the whole "why do I have to pay" logic then the RGH/JTAG 360 is ripping people off, flash carts are a rip off, every Team xecutor product ever made was a ripoff, downgrade services are ripping people off, and 360 modding services are ripping people off. Sorry but if you think that is how the world works, then you are either broke, a cheapskate, or are incredibly stupid to think that a person's time isn't worth **** as long as you get what you want for free. I can't believe the stupidity I have read by users comparing this to True Blue. An ODDe is adding a feature which is the ability to play backups off of a hard drive even on OFW. True Blue broke DRM, to reencrypt it with their own DRM, which is wrong and should have been free all along. They straight up made a profit from things that could have been done through software and they had no right making money off of eboots that they encrypted. They didn't add anything to the console, they used stolen code to make profit from things they had no business making money from, and they also added things like that awesome hard drive erase feature that I am sure everyone really really wanted. True Blue was nothing more than glorified butt rape. Even Cobra I can agree with because it added features that still aren't in MFW or any OFW. Reverse engineering takes time. Making a circuit takes time. Get a product manufactured in mass volumes takes time and money. Shipping costs money. As long as people continue to get their warez for free then by this logic **** time , money and resources spent? If it was a reDRM type of situation then I would join in on the flaming but it isnt. I could go on for days but some people will refuse to even comprehend this logic. I really wonder what a lot of the crybabies did before 3.55. What did you people that have this entitlement complex do when you had to actually pay for your games? The people that think everything should be free potentially also hurts other users. You can thank people like yourselves for the reason I am not doing downgrades. If you think I am picking up a soldering iron just to get a warm fuzzy feeling for helping a stranger then you might want to consider going to your local hospital's psych unit to get evaluated. Why shouldn't I get paid for a skill that someone doesnt have? I am charging for a solder job and I dont see how that is different then say a TV repairman for example. Oh and not to **** on anyone hopes and dreams but what if Sony pushes an update that updates the BD drive firmware....then your ODDE is worthless. reDRM is wrong, charging for legitimate mod chips/hardware that gives things that arent normally available is not.

You know I do believe you are correct, but although you are people will always want something free that is the duty of a pirate to steal, pillage and plunder without fail.

Being pirates of the PS3 doesn't stop at back-ups it should end where we know we can harbor our trust in the PS3 devs. Sure the new hardware is coming out, and if you don't like that don't cry about it. Maybe we are on 3.55 cfw some people choose Rogero, Dex-Exceedy, Kmeaw or some of you guys and girls make your own, but for those of us who say nay to this new hardware more power to us because we can support the scene after those who update are gone. Now I can't promise a custom firmware will beat this, but what I can say is support your fellow man and donate to them to work on these things, so maybe we may not ever have OFW but who wants that I can't go a day without opening up Retro and breaking out some crazy old @$$ gba rom, or playing sonic 3 & knuckles. Just don't get all bent out of shape because a ODDe is being released just stick to what we all know and wait for something better than that because homebrew has never steered me wrong. Let's just remember this is a group effort and we shouldn't start demanding free methods because when you demand you actually have a chance of not recieving a d@#* thing. Best of luck PS3 -Scene because we are going to need it.

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT If a new cfw is released, why you want this crap?

because as of right now the only new MFW I am hearing about is this Blue Disc crap or whatever. Even at the rumor stage of its life cycle I already hate it. A MFW that will not run without a dongle? SO once again stolen Sony code, with a a new reDRM butt plug that will help GaryOPA get even more little boys to his island, and at the same time raping the end user.....yeah I would go OFW and use an ODDE first.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin This device isn't really crap, it lets you remain on the latest Firmware, whilst be connected to PSN and running backups, now there is nothing else that can do that, not even a new CFW.

i thought u had to be on 3.55 and and stay on 3.55 to use it . just see u can update to latest fw after . o yeah the [Read More]link on 1st post dont work , need editing

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by carldenning o yeah link on 1st post dont work , need editing

lol i knew i would forget to fix that

[stevorkz]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt reDRM is wrong, charging for legitimate mod chips/hardware that gives things that arent normally available is not.

So simple. It really is that simple. The more and more people get told this and still think otherwise makes me think there's no hope for mankind.

Like I said previously, this time the hardware is required. It reminds me of the good ol' chip days. Despite what I said earlier about devices that only offer pirating, and the fact that I dont pirate games now days, I used to pirate every game on the ps1. Back then, simply booting a CD-R on my ps1 that I wrote a game ISO to myself on my 3k CD writer, was thrilling...lol

[DEFAULTDNB]

In order to retrieve the needed BD drive key, Team 3k3y (aka xk3y) will release a PS3 util which requires CFW 3.55, after the key is dumped the PS3 can be upgraded to latest official system update (firmware/XMB) to get PSN etc. The team is exploring other options to dump the required key as well, more on that later.

Sounds sketchy to me: use our 3.55's to dump a key, update to 4.25 (for example) then what? Can the keys be changed in newer FW updates?

If Sony can change the keys its useless as you cant then run homebrew on your now updated machine to use the utility to get the updated keys....but... if they cant then this is still only great for pirates.

DEX ftw.

[stevorkz]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Sounds sketchy to me: use our 3.55's to dump a key, update to 4.25 (for example) then what? Can the keys be changed in newer FW updates? If Sony can change the keys its useless as you cant then run homebrew on your now updated machine to use the utility to get the updated keys....but... if they cant then this is still only great for pirates. DEX ftw.

I think the key is unique to each drive. Like the per_console_key_0.
Stop me if I'm wrong

[japsander]

if they find a way to dump the required key on 3k/4k models then this may be big.

i cant help but wonder if the current backups still work with this or would fresh dumps need to be made as in a 1:1 disc image

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Sounds sketchy to me: use our 3.55's to dump a key, update to 4.25 (for example) then what? Can the keys be changed in newer FW updates? If Sony can change the keys its useless as you cant then run homebrew on your now updated machine to use the utility to get the updated keys....but... if they cant then this is still only great for pirates. DEX ftw.

With the 360 the key is always the same...part of the 360 chain of trust. What can change is the firmware. New encryption can be added making it a lot harder for this team to decrypt it and update their device's fw. I doubt the BD keys will ever change. Each key is different and per console.

Also I believe that with time that the device can retrieve the key regardless of firmware. Most 360 ODDEs can retrieve the key for you now.

[ortis123]

here at ps3hax always have been comparisions between xbox360 & ps3 on how the xbox360scene is great, they get all new games, they have homebrews etc etc ... and now with odde we may be at same level (almost) and i will pay for that just to screw sony over (just like i paied for e3 flasher and progskeet)