[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by willemse21 Very bad news!!! Everything turns into money money money.

TB could put a version of this out and even though it doesnt scream reDRM, it still makes money out of something that can be done for free.

Its an interesting option to have for PS3 backups, but unless they figure out how to dump the keys (iirc from EID4) no one can use this above 3.55, so they might as well stick to DEX... which is free, and allows homebrew

BTW if they ever do manage to dump EID4 from FW 4.xx+ they might as well be able to dump all the other keys..... including perconsole? (I could be wrong here)

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by willemse21 Very bad news!!! Everything turns into money money money.

We ***** about that fact of money but if anyone can afford it and gives us a solution some will do it anyways if that goes against our own ethics or moral values.

No harm done.
We don't selling intel to the enemy, just purchasing something on a system corrupted (Generally speaking) rotten to the core.
Happens here, happens in real life.

Is like asking anyone or make some *census* to know if anybody recently purchased Windows 7 or Vista for personal use? or just pirate it?.
Ask to the 80% and they will excuse themselves that it's a ****ty OS and don't need to be purchases unless you run a business or something like that. Where most of the times is imperative to have it but for personal use?...nah.

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT Meh, for me it's crap anyways, i don't like to play online, only battlefield 3 sometimes, but i can pass that, but otherwise for other people can be good, but for me it's not important.

Well congrats for not falling into that 80% I mentioned in my longer post a few pages back

I am still a firm believer that homebrew and PSN do not belong together. Most people that do want the two together dont care about homebrew. It isn't like you get any benefit from playing an emulator while signed into PSN...... cheaters and hardcore pirates are the only people that want MFW and PSN to mix. At least this way the community can get rid of a lot of the users that only want warez, 4.xx jailbreaks, or online MP mods (like CoD lobbies.)

and I say "get rid of" but that isn't what I meant. Devices like this will be part of the community, but at least I don't have to worry about an ODDE user getting on PSN with modded eboots or running that crap ps3 usercheat, or anything else that would destroy the online experience for other people. People have been using backups on Xbox Live for years, but Microsoft has also done a good job of keeping Jtag/RGH boxes off of Live. Playing backups online isn't going to hurt any legit user as opposed to MFW on PSN which could potentially cause chaos. A few warez on PSN isn't going to hurt anyone. The only people that will cry about it are MFW users that have no business on PSN anyway.... and those people that are pissed because a piece of hardware isn't free.

[fanboysarestupid]

The PS3 Scene is about making money currently, but once someone finds, or shares their real CFW for PS3's with 3.56+. Then those who're willing to pay have the option to do so, instead of getting a free solution.

I personally prefer to spend money on legit games than a device that allows to play pirate games (not to forget it only works on 3.55 FW).

Have fun.

[japsander]

Originally Posted by fanboysarestupid The PS3 Scene is about making money currently, but once someone finds, or shares their real CFW for PS3's with 3.56+. Then those who're willing to pay have the option to do so, instead of getting a free solution. I personally prefer to spend money on legit games than a device that allows to play pirate games (not to forget it only works on 3.55 FW). Have fun.

from what i read, you only need 3.55 to initially dump the key then are free to update to latest firmware version

its still not my sort of thing though but its progress at least

[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by japsander from what i read, you only need 3.55 to initially dump the key then are free to update to latest firmware version

IIRC fanboys FW is 4. something. So he is SOL yet again.

[hellsing9]

Talking with some friends other day about this *issue* about PSN/Homebrew and pirates.
It's 10 times more comfortable and 10 times less expensive at the end of the day to be legit or just have a PS3 only for homebrews and other only for playing online.

Many of them pirated many games on Xbox360 and i told them to buy the original and later told me what changed from owning a crapy pirated/ripped copy than a original and even an special edition of certain game. (Same happens with PS3)

1 month later they bought the game and guess what? this so called pirates now are legit users that instead of using torrents to get the latest game are buying it.
Watch it, if the game is a CRAP or i believe is a CRAP i will *test* it first and see what happens if the game is cool enough and i got the money is a *must be* on my collection.

Happens often on Steam, since im more a PC gamer than a console one.
But BF3 got away with murder and Origin, battlelog is a pain in the arse i can't backup my OWN GAME.
Besides i have to use that ****ty client of them that take ages to find some decent server.

**** happens.

[DEFAULTDNB]

I like to try before I buy for my OFW machine

I believe you should buy the games you love and support the devs who make them, so they can make more in future.

[alexsius]

Come on 90% of the games don't worth their cost i think that buying a game like fall out, gran turismo , GTA has a sense but spending 59 euros for games like nfs the run, motorstorm, splint secon velocity etc has no sense if you could download it i think nfs the run is a good game to play for free nothing more anyway it s just a point of view...

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB TB could put a version of this out and even though it doesnt scream reDRM, it still makes money out of something that can be done for free.

Explain how this can be done for free? Install the device, grab your key, update to current OFW, and enjoy. This cannot be done for free. Yes 3.55 is free, DEX conversions are free, but playing on OFW and using a hard drive to play games isn't possible. This requires actual hardware, and as of now can be used on current OFW without having to deal with eboots, game updates, dying BD drives, or shady reDRM distributors. If people out there really want homebrew then buy a flasher when you buy one of these and you can always go back to MFW to play with your favorite homebrew. That is still a better solution than 2 PS3s which is what I usually tell people to do.

Yes MFW is free but saying this can be done for free kind of shows me that a lot of users aren't fully understanding the difference between this and a MFW. This cannot be done for free. Software cannot do this for you, and the only way you will ever run backups on 4.xx+ without hardware is to pray that a new MFW comes out....which is looking grim. A new MFW may be coming out, but remember that the rumors are also pointing to a new reDRM dongle just to be able to run it.

I would buy one of these over any reDRM MFW that should be open and free. Let us say that Sony actually leaves this alone or PS3key is able to stay on top of updating their device.... we all know Sony will be quick to block a new MFW. So pay for a device that allows backups on current firmware, pay for ****ty reDRM dongle that will be blocked so you will once again be stuck on a certain firmware, or stay on 3.55 and access PSN whenever someone decides to tell how to access the network when Sony changes something (which is few and far between in terms of accessing PSN.) I think if backups were a big deal to me then I know what I would do, but PS3 backups arent a big deal to me. I have a couple of 360s for both homebrew and/or backups. I also believe that Sony still makes the best exclusives and I would want to pay for those to support these masterpieces like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, and God of War.

Just because I will choose to stay with MFW doesn't mean I disagree with a device that doesn't use shady reDRM practices to allow something on OFW that nothing else can provide.