[hunthunt]

Originally Posted by GundamWfan I don't even need to see the pricing model to determine that I won't be paying even half the cost of a new PS3, just to play the newer games that I will inevitably be able to play without it. If there's all this room for innovation, why is it that all these third party DRM-diseased bastards can seem to think about is what they can do next to turn a profit from an already dead market?

DRM? i thought that this was using custom hardware to emulate the drive

[Cage]

Wouldn't getting higher FW games to run on 3.55 pretty simple with this? (EBOOT would be decrypted)

Or am I mistaken?

Of course not even counting the factor that the team behind ODD might implement some security measures so it won't be "one buys, rest rejoices".

[itskamel]

EPIC FAIL ON MY PART. that thread is from 2010. /me facepalms at myself.

[FreakAlchemist]

Thats so old.

[stussy1]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB If no more dex fw gets leaked, dexers are stuck for a while, until they soft downgrade to 3.55 and get their drive key and decide what they want to do from there. Options. Ofw ppl who are on 3.56 and beyond are still out of luck unless they manage to get keys without hombrew access.... I can't see it unless the device eventually reads the key and doesn't require an app to be run on 3.55. What if they get keys, instal ode, update and Sony patches it? How do you then re-crack/get new keys from the 4.25 update? No homebrew = poop. No options. I think there is more chance of Sony patching this then there is of no more dex fw getting leaked..

The question is will sony be able to patch it
Microsoft hasnt for the past year after a couple of updates

[aries2k]

This seems like a pirates and psn cheaters dream, lol
No homebrew means it´s not for me but I know alot of people who might be interested.
Now that the ps3 is hitting a mature age it´s interesting to see what will pop up in hardware and in software for hacking the ps3.

I´m wondering what this hardware will cost?

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by LiteSoul Exactly, this ODD needs 3.55 so if you go to the trouble of downgrading to 3.55, just go DEX and be done with it. This ODD is useless as it requires 3.55

I love people that only read part of my posts

Did you fail to notice that part where I said the key will probably be obtainable without 3.55? That is actually a very very real possibilty if the ODDE is correct. At some point the BD control board has to tell the PS3 mainboard what the key is. During this handshake you have the ODDE sitting in the middle. I would almost bet that by actual release of this product that the device will obtain the key for you.

The only reason I mentioned downgrade are for those people that claim they are in it for the homebrew. The can pick up a downgrader along with this ODDE instead of using 2 PS3s ..... read my entire post and you would see I stated that pretty clearly. Some people want it all which is homebrew, PSN, and all new warez....sorry but this isnt Feb. 2011 anymore.

While I can't stand for someone to skim a post I do agree with you on one simple point....downgrading to get the BD key, only to upgrade back would be stupid, and this device would fail horribly.

Originally Posted by 8MM Considering that it is undetectable - hence the name (emulator) I find this very hard to believe. Just check out the xk3y. Where have you been for the last 12 months?

LMAO. I have been right here or playing with my 360 these last 12 months. I also have noticed that the first batch of xkeys were detectable and got loads of people banned on live. What does being undetectable have to do with the fact the device will exist, Sony will know about it, and they update everyone's drive firmware making the device either worthless, or make it require a FW update to work again. The 360 hasnt had a drive FW update in over a year, and that is a big reason why xkey still works. Did you miss that period between LT 2.0 and LT 3.0? Lots of people with both flashed drives and ODDEs got flagged this time last year not to mention many XGD3 based games were not playable until a ODDE fw update and LT 3.0

Maybe instead of half ass thinking of a way to try and call me on a point that you disagree with, do some research then prove to me I am wrong because your point isn't even valid. You ask where I have been for the last 12 months, well where were you for the last few years? If you had been around you may notice that I don't try to attempt to speak on things I have no business making opinions on.

[butnut]

If we can get the key for eid4 then would we be able to modify our drives to play burned ps3 games on dex firmwares?

And whatever happened to that 4.21 cfw, in my opinion this ode is kind of the same thing.

Why can't devs or whoever wait until they actually have a physical product ready for the masses, before releasing info.

All we end up with is 8 million people who honestly don't know any true facts about it speculating about a currently non existent product.

If I said I have a way to play ORBIS games on the ps3 will I get a 104 page thread too? Maybe I should find out...

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by butnut If we can get the key for eid4 then would we be able to modify our drives to play burned ps3 games on dex firmwares? And whatever happened to that 4.21 cfw, in my opinion this ode is kind of the same thing. Why can't devs or whoever wait until they actually have a physical product ready for the masses, before releasing info. All we end up with is 8 million people who honestly don't know any true facts about it speculating about a currently non existent product. If I said I have a way to play ORBIS games on the ps3 will I get a 104 page thread too? Maybe I should find out...

Great point and I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Originally Posted by 8MM Mate, at the present time, they are being used on live and are not being detected. Don't bring up old news. We all know the first batch had its issues and were detectable on live. This issue was fixed and now MS cant do sh*t. Anyway my main point is not about live . It was the fact that even if u get banned from live, you will still be able to use it offline to install games etc..

Did I mention anything about present time? No I mentioned in the beginning. The only reason MS gave up on backups is because they wanted to ruin the RGH. Besides XGD3 and AP 2.5 got owned so what would be the point in continuing to fight backups if they would have to come up with an entire new type of disc security this late in the console's life.

You are missing my point. It has nothing to do about online, and it has nothing to do with how detectable it is. Sony updates the drive firmware and the device will simply not work anymore. The only reason you have never seen this with the xkey is because MS hasn't updated the drive firmware since spring of last year with the XGD3 update.

Saying MS can't do **** is a bit wrong. Microsoft and Sony can do a lot more than you think.....they have people like us sitting on payroll to play anti hacker. Just think ixtreme 1.6 (if you were around back then.) Many Many people got banned and it wasn't the backups that were getting people caught, it was the drive fw.

Saying someone cant do **** is funny. MS could update tomorrow and it would flash everyone that took the update back to a new stock fw making xkey a temporary paperweight. Sony can update and make your ODDE worthless. Your point about staying offline also helps the point of many other people. What would be the point? You would eventually be stuck on a certain fw, games would start becoming unplayable, and the crying about "I can't warez newer games" would begin all over again. To make it worse you already lost your MFW. I would much rather be stuck on MFW than be stuck on a specific OFW with ODDE without the option to update and keep my ODDE.

Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT lol i could care less, i have a good pc that can run all games, yeah i like to play on the ps3 some games on my full hd tv, but right now im just waiting for last of us game for the ps3, so if any exploit see the light of the day it's good for me, if not well i don't care i il just buy the game for 49,99euros. Also the ps3 is gonna to be dead, and i lose some of my entusiasm on this console, well maybe cuz i get my new pc recently. Have fun playing games on psn, i il continue using warez and buying the game if i like it and enjoyed.

Yeah my PC, and 360 are the reasons I dont care about ps3 warez at all. I don't have to deal with updates, eboots, shady devs, ODDEs, etc. with my PC and 360. I keep a ps3 around just for the PS exclusives. Not to mention Steam runs some great games on sale so cheap you almost feel wrong for not paying for them

[KanjiMan]

I wonder if the "3K3y" team are having any luck with those xbox drive key probe extractors... prolly have to modify it for a BR drive. As long as the BD drive powers up you still should be able take it apart to probe it for the key whether the lens works or not that wont make no difference. But where to probe the drive is another question.

Lol look at all these monkeys on here they don't even know what this is.... all the re-drm talk and dongles, an the funny part was the dude that posted links to PS3Key which isn't even the same product.

Oh... and home brew will be possible to a certain extent... you just have to put it in the same format as a retail disk and save it as an iso or whatever format its gonna require.... not too complex. (Like making an emulator disk)

And for all the stupid people that still don't know what this is....

Its hardware that plugs in between the blu ray drive and ps3 so you can attach a usb hard drive, and it pretends the USB hard drive is the blu ray drive to load iso's

Maybe people should read before they have a hissy fit, chuck things around with tears in their eyes while stomping their feet like a 3 yr old.