[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by KanjiMan I wonder if the "3K3y" team are having any luck with those xbox drive key probe extractors... prolly have to modify it for a BR drive. As long as the BD drive powers up you still should be able take it apart to probe it for the key whether the lens works or not that wont make no difference. But where to probe the drive is another question. Lol look at all these monkeys on here they don't even know what this is.... all the re-drm talk and dongles, an the funny part was the dude that posted links to PS3Key which isn't even the same product. Oh... and home brew will be possible to a certain extent... you just have to put it in the same format as a retail disk and save it as an iso or whatever format its gonna require.... not too complex. (Like making an emulator disk) And for all the stupid people that still don't know what this is.... Its hardware that plugs in between the blu ray drive and ps3 so you can attach a usb hard drive, and it pretends the USB hard drive is the blu ray drive to load iso's Maybe people should read before they have a hissy fit, chuck things around with tears in their eyes while stomping their feet like a 3 yr old.

The only point you have made that I don't agree with is the part about homebrew. Homebrew would still have to be signed to be able to run. If the keys were available to sign homebrew then a new MFW would be out and this device would be pointless. Other than that I am glad someone has the same logic on this situation that I have.

@DEFAULTDNB you made a comment a few pages back about ODDE and DEX together.....all I can say is I wish I had an xzibit meme right now "Yo dog we heard you like hacks on an already hacked console"

[gingerbread]

Only to play backups without homebrew? Where is the fun?

[psg]

Originally Posted by gingerbread Only to play backups without homebrew? Where is the fun?

Obviously there are no statistics on this, but I think it's quite safe to assume that the vast majority of people in the scene are in it for the games, and not for the homebrew.

[Isleofdoom]

All the post I've read thro n yet ppl are fighting over playing backups and homebrew and honestly yes Sony will patch it like anything else n the keys will probly change with a fw update or the way they are done. To me it seems like a dex fw turned into retail n using the key on the drive to validate how it acts. 3.55 is only the base n I'm sure if blue disc comes out it will be the same thing.

[gingerbread]

Originally Posted by psg Obviously there are no statistics on this, but I think it's quite safe to assume that the vast majority of people in the scene are in it for the games, and not for the homebrew.

The homebrew is what makes the playing game interesting and fun. Save backing up, CodeUnique, Installation of PKGs and etc will all be gone.

I believe the present 3.55 CFW and DEX solution offers more than this.

Unless, this new solution offers help for folks with 3K models and Super-Slim or people with 3.55 or higher. If it only works for 3.55 or below, I feel it is kinda back to square one.

[hunthunt]

Originally Posted by gingerbread The homebrew is what makes the playing game interesting and fun. Save backing up, CodeUnique, Installation of PKGs and etc will all be gone. I believe the present 3.55 CFW and DEX solution offers more than this. Unless, this new solution offers help for folks with 3K models and Super-Slim or people with 3.55 or higher. If it only works for 3.55 or below, I feel it is kinda back to square one.

i don't know, i had a lot of fun with Ps, ps2, dc, xbox and 360 and i never loaded a homebrew in those at all

[sardine]

After reading all this debate, now it seem to me that all those who get their games or firmware for free from Devs are call Homebrew and those who pay for it (plug and play) are call Idiot or Dumb ass or ass plug lover (which is me :D). Why can't those so call homebrew have a thought for those who does not understand how to do it, yes you can say all those tutorial is there to teach you but you must remember that not all is like you (smart ass).

[butnut]

Originally Posted by hunthunt i don't know, i had a lot of fun with Ps, ps2, dc, xbox and 360 and i never loaded a homebrew in those at all

I bought at least 3 ps2's one was a phat and the others were slims. The first two were never hacked and I bought all my games for them. They were stolen from me, so after I got my 3rd ps2 I continued to buy games and after I found out about fmcb I played homebrew on it and backups of some of the games the games I used to own and I still bought games for it. That ps3 is gone now, I loaned it and all my games to my older sister so she could play sonic the hedgehog, but she lost/broke/sold it. I don't know, she wont tell me, but I'm pretty sure I'll never see it again. If I get another PS2 do you honestly expect me to again now for the fourth time buy all my games that I once owned for it. I did not ever willingly give up any of these ps2's or the games I once payed money for. I will not pay to reclaim what I previously paid for. Like FFVII that game is now over $100 dollars USED and I used to own the original and at a later date the greatest hits version. Do I need to re buy that game too if I ever want to play it again?

Originally Posted by sardine After reading all this debate, now it seem to me that all those who get their games or firmware for free from Devs are call Homebrew and those who pay for it (plug and play) are call Idiot or Dumb ass or ass plug lover (which is me :D). Why can't those so call homebrew have a thought for those who does not understand how to do it, yes you can say all those tutorial is there to teach you but you must remember that not all is like you (smart ass).

If you have a modded ps3 and you don't know how to install homebrew on it then you are an idiot.

Edit: Sorry that was a little rude, what I meant to say was: If you have a modded ps3 and you don't know how to install homebrew on it and you dont know how to search for help or just ask someone for help then you are an idiot.

[stevorkz]

Originally Posted by sardine After reading all this debate, now it seem to me that all those who get their games or firmware for free from Devs are call Homebrew and those who pay for it (plug and play) are call Idiot or Dumb ass or ass plug lover (which is me :D). Why can't those so call homebrew have a thought for those who does not understand how to do it, yes you can say all those tutorial is there to teach you but you must remember that not all is like you (smart ass).

With @itskamel 's easy jailbreak guide and his other awesome tutorials, anyone should be able jailbreak and run homebrew on a ps3.
There truly is no excuse only laziness
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Originally Posted by butnut Why can't devs or whoever wait until they actually have a physical product ready for the masses, before releasing info.

Its simple product marketing mate.

You get people hyped up to a release date, get them waiting with their wallets wide open...and on the release date they are rich within a matter of hours.

[SuperDre]

But the biggest question is, can you run homebrew with it? if not, then it's not interesting and only interesting for those pirating lamers...