[NF7]

Originally Posted by crazelunatic If we can play games above 3.55 fm and stay on 3.55 cfw (don't want to lose my emus) then it looks like im sold....

Impossible. Games above 3.55 require newer keys. This device will only sit between BD Drive and Motherboard, it would actually emulate DB Drive, with it's proper key, so we will be able to connect our External HDD drives to it, and trick the motherboard into falsely registering that we have Original BD Game in the BD Drive. So you will not be able to use it on 3.55 and play newer games, only games that are playable on 3.55 to this day.

The concept of the device is magnificent, the problem so far that I'm seeing is that the crypto between motherboard and BD Drive is so far impossible to crack with 3000 and 4000 PS3 models. Because on that PS3's we can't extract EID_ROOT_KEY. As far as naehrwert said, EID_ROOT_KEY is "A MUST HAVE" if you want to get your BD Drive UNIQUE key. Older models will work no problem, newer models, well we'll have to find a way.

[BobbyBlunt]

Ok well I haven't read any post at all in this thread, but I am really skeptical now. The BD drive is clearly behind the PS3. If it werent then why use the cable that goes to the BD drive? They never showed mounting an actual ISO like xkey did before that product was released. All I saw was Borderlands 2 running on a disassembled PS3, with some wires, what may or may not be a circuit with more of a purpose than a ribbon cable extender, a cardboard box and, Borderlands 2 running on 4.21. We cant tell how that disc is being run. They could have shown a HDD with flashing indicator like something is being read but they didn't. If it is real then this is the worst PoC video I have ever seen.

This video has done nothing but make me doubt the validity of this product.

I started a facts thread here http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=44248
I have added "team makes shady PoC video" as a fact because there is no denying that the video is crap.
It wouldn't be funny is this was a trolling attempt, but at the same time it would be funny considering how much discussion and hype are surrounding this device.

[wolftje]

First of all, I really do like all the new stuff posted on ps3hax.
You guys seem to be following closely even if it's hoax. Keep it up please.

About this 3K3Y stuff, I'm sure this is of no use for anyone ...
All the people who could do a software firmware CFW are already on it And
are happy with the eboots that are released currently .

As I have read millions of posts concerning ps3 it is obvious that there is almost no chance that there ever will be device/ hack/pkg that will let you play backups above 3.55 FW or lets say using the latest original ps3 firmware.

All this talk about cex to dex and hardware is only for the diehards amongst us. Even I am reluctant to open up my ps3 (and that is the easy part if you read the horror going Horrible wrong stories ...., not to mention nor -nand differences and type of models ...)

[DjKlown]

You know what bobby blunt. Ur right its all a hoax. When 12 carrot 3 comes and nothing there dont be surprised that this is a hoax too. It all pre propaganda to new dildos. Its a stall tactic to wait for dildos 2. Bit what do i know.. I'm still high. Hehe. God that inner circle making money and ****ing **** up.....

[BobbyBlunt]

After watching the video again I am going to say fake for now. They may have a device being worked on, but it wasnt shown in that video. OK Im sure we have many members that have either a wasabi or xkey in their 360. Now please correct me if I am wrong but should a remote, or some other device be coming off of that blue circuit?


Now I know I said not to compare it to the xbox version but an ODDE is still the same in basic concept. Nothing is coming off of that board to choose an ISO to mount. Also even if a remote is unneeded then that would mean that the device can mount ISOs from the XMB. If this were true then that means that they are using either an psuedo signed homebrew on 3.55 or they can run user made applications (homebrew) from firmwares higher than 3.55. The video said 4.21 and was running Borderlands 2. We know they arent running any unsigned or psuedo signed code on 4.21 and let me ask one more question. Where is the HDD plugged in? On 360 it plugs into the remote that allows selecting your ISO. Dont tell me that it is plugged into a normal USB port on the PS3 and magically works.

With the xkey point 6 in the above pic goes to another device that allows you to connect a USB HDD (full of ISOs) and also a display and controls that allow you to pick the ISO. Wode (wii ODDE) also had a similar setup as the 360 ODDE.

[coso1950]

A question for 360 owners who use xkey. When installed does the console stay disassembled? Can it be closed afterwards?

[Divine Flaw]

bobby blunt i have an xkey and i dont use the remote at all. the remote really isnt needed on the xbox with newer firmware versions cause you can now select the games off of the dashboard. however in the xkey there is a flat cable leading out of the device to the outside of the console and thats were you connect the external hdd and if you chose to use it, the remote.

as for the device itself. if there is no way you can extract the bd drive key with newer firmware than i dont see any use to this for many here are already running cfw 3.55 or are on dex firmware.
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Originally Posted by coso1950 A question for 360 owners who use xkey. When installed does the console stay disassembled? Can it be closed afterwards?

you can close the xbox console......i assume you can with the ps3 version cause the actual device is covered with cardboard that has the logo on it (which is included) and you need to cover the device with it or else you can really screw up your system. but dont quote me on that for everything is still on assumption

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by Divine Flaw bobby blunt i have an xkey and i dont use the remote at all. the remote really isnt needed on the xbox with newer firmware versions cause you can now select the games off of the dashboard. however in the xkey there is a flat cable leading out of the device to the outside of the console and thats were you connect the external hdd and if you chose to use it, the remote. as for the device itself. if there is no way you can extract the bd drive key with newer firmware than i dont see any use to this for many here are already running cfw 3.55 or are on dex firmware.

Right I understand that. Wasabi is the same way, but I cant see where an HDD is plugged up, they dont show any HDD, the dont show the mounting process, the intentionally tried to hide the BD drive (yes I still think it is behind the PS3. The video showed absolutely nothing to prove that the device is real.

So if I take my ps3 half way apart, put a big piece of paper over the left half with a cable running out the front, hide my BD drive from view, and run a game without showing you anything that couldn't be done on OFW would you guys believe me if I told you I had an ISO loader?

Wow memories because this seems like the ferrox and paradox crap from the beginning of the PS3 days all over again.

Even when xkey was in the prototype stage, and when wode was still in prototype stage at least they were able to show some concrete evidence that the devices did indeed do what they claimed they did. Running Borderlands 2 on 4.21 (according to the video, who really knows) is not evidence at all and shouldnt be treated as evidence.

If it comes out good, if it doesn't, well doesn't bother me because I personally wasn't going to get one. I was simply trying to get my point across that not everything can be free, and there is nothing wrong with paying for a device to modify your console as long as it doesn't use reDRM or other practices that are just plain wrong. Believe it or not most pirates do have some type of ethics

Here is a picture with the remote in which I was talking about


Ok now it looks complete but I am still having an issue here..... it appears the remote is plugged into something right below the power supply, but what is that plugged into? Also why didnt they show all of that hardware in the video.

I am going to make a 4.25 MFW video since apparently all I have to do is run a game and people will believe it.

[carldenning]

it is real . its on youtube lol

[Divine Flaw]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt Right I understand that. Wasabi is the same way, but I cant see where an HDD is plugged up, they dont show any HDD, the dont show the mounting process, the intentionally tried to hide the BD drive (yes I still think it is behind the PS3. The video showed absolutely nothing to prove that the device is real. So if I take my ps3 half way apart, put a big piece of paper over the left half with a cable running out the front, hide my BD drive from view, and run a game without showing you anything that couldn't be done on OFW would you guys believe me if I told you I had an ISO loader? Wow memories because this seems like the ferrox and paradox crap from the beginning of the PS3 days all over again. Even when xkey was in the prototype stage, and when wode was still in prototype stage at least they were able to show some concrete evidence that the devices did indeed do what they claimed they did. Running Borderlands 2 on 4.21 (according to the video, who really knows) is not evidence at all and shouldnt be treated as evidence. If it comes out good, if it doesn't, well doesn't bother me because I personally wasn't going to get one. I was simply trying to get my point across that not everything can be free, and there is nothing wrong with paying for a device to modify your console as long as it doesn't use reDRM or other practices that are just plain wrong. Believe it or not most pirates do have some type of ethics Here is a picture with the remote in which I was talking about Ok now it looks complete but I am still having an issue here..... it appears the remote is plugged into something right below the power supply, but what is that plugged into? Also why didnt they show all of that hardware in the video. I am going to make a 4.25 MFW video since apparently all I have to do is run a game and people will believe it.

Hey you know what i totally agree with you on that end. There is really no prof in the video that it actually works. This as carldenning just said, others, and including yourself just now pointed out that many people can put up a video proving that things work. such as videos on youtube that shows that there is a cfw or mfw version of 3.6+ firmware working on their systems when all it really is is a spoofed console to said firmware.

And i have said it before that the only way you can extract the bd drive key is if you are on firmware 3.55. some of us already have 3.55 cfw or are on dex. Also we can run homebrew apps. i can guarantee that the 3key can not do this so there is really no big deal there if you are on 3.55. play newer games? Than convert to dex. So really to me this device is really nothing to some of us who already have a ps3 on 3.55. Newer folks out there who dont have a 3.55 ps3, well all i can say is good luck finding one cause they are hard to come by. And if you are lucky to find one it will either be on its last leg cause its used or you'll pay a premium for it. But even than why would you pay for this when you can do so much more on cfw? just my 2 cents.....