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@hellsing9

You're wrong actually, because they don't need 4.x "keys"....

They just need the Bluray drive key. That is a static key that can be extracted via hardware.

They don't need the 4.x decryption keys. A point that is extremely important and that being the case invalidates your claims.

[GraVoX959]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 @GraVoX959 You talk more sense than a lot, but after all your past b o llocks about working on things and not being 'allowed' to reveal details and sources, sorry Mr Sausage Head, but you have Zero right to criticise anyone who states their opinion

WTF?
So because I dont break peoples trust that means I cant call a spade a spade?
Im actually a pretty honest and open guy, people talk to me privately and in a humane manner and I respond accordingly. Ask Greg, Im about as honest with him as I could be with anyone.

And an opinion is one thing, an uneducated assertion is another!
I actually thought you were ok before the sausage comment.. guess I'll respond accordingly..
I have EVERY right to criticize whatever I want Mr Pork Sword Head

[Ubefuct]

Originally Posted by GraVoX959 ....... what else has been said is unpatchable and turned out to be patchable?

Was not the original hack "unpatchable"
http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/

Originally Posted by GraVoX959 ....... Plus its common sense, if something PERFECTLY simulates something else to the point of it being indistinguishable to the host console/Sony servers then how can it be patched?

Thats just it, it simulates an 'answer' to a 'question'. What if they change the question in ofw along with a bd update?
I'm not saying they are GOING to patch it, just stating it's not beyond the possiblity. Even if they do I'm sure they could just change with it as it allows updating. A feature not needed if truly unpatchable

[GraVoX959]

Originally Posted by Ubefuct Was not the original hack "unpatchable" http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/

Well you got me there but other 'higher up the food chain' hacks are still present and unfixed so for me, its cancelled out

Thats just it, it simulates an 'answer' to a 'question'. What if they change the question in ofw along with a bd update? I'm not saying they are GOING to patch it, just stating it's not beyond the possiblity. Even if they do I'm sure they could just change with it as it allows updating. A feature not needed if truly unpatchable

Time will tell and personally if I bought one I would wait a week or so til I updated FWs in case the team came out and said something.
I'm positive.. HIV positive this wont be the case though

[master737373]

Originally Posted by Ubefuct Was not the original hack "unpatchable" http://www.mydigitallife.info/fail0v...ames-and-apps/

I think they were just too quick to say what was the impossible without knowing what Sony's able to do.

[mrBear]

And this thread is still alive

This is my view on things.
The great big DRM confusion
Dont confuse this with DRM dongles, where you are held hostage for eboot releases dripping through slower than a three legged blind dog with a broken back. DRM dongles dont allow you to go and buy a new game, dump it, and then just play it. Here you can.

Keys
Has been mentioned by Gravox and many others - its not the keys required by the firmware. This device uses the BD identifier keys, which are hardcoded in the hardware - and really cannot change. These is per console, and as such currently you need 3.55 to run a few diagnostics etc to pick it up, then the device are able to synch and bobs you uncle. However, I know they are working on a solution for later PS3s which cannot be downgraded, or ones that your infant chew the remote and accidently upgraded to the latest firmware (or whatever excuse they use).

Future proof
This device will appear as your own BD drive, and are connected with the ribbon cable. As far as the PS3 is concerned, its talking to the original BD. This makes it so much harder to fix with firmware, since the firmware doesnt update or write anything to the BD keys wise (since its hardwired). To my knowledge the hardware layout in the PS3 have no way of doing that. Please PS3 gods correct me if im wrong.

CFW
Who knows, maybe someone is kind enough to feed through the various keys required, in which case they could create a new CFW on par with the latest OFW. But mind you, its less hassle to be on DEX currently, since its there and real. But until a new CFW comes out which will allow people with later consoles to update to a CFW, this will be the only option.

In a nutshell, this device is not for everyone. Since the PS3 is at the end of its lifecycle, some might prefer to stay on Dex losing PSN - others might go this route to be on OFW.

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by GraVoX959 WTF? So because I dont break peoples trust that means I cant call a spade a spade? Im actually a pretty honest and open guy, people talk to me privately and in a humane manner and I respond accordingly. Ask Greg, Im about as honest with him as I could be with anyone. And an opinion is one thing, an uneducated assertion is another! I actually thought you were ok before the sausage comment.. guess I'll respond accordingly.. I have EVERY right to criticize whatever I want Mr Pork Sword Head

Ok, I guess I will have to retract the Sausage Head bit, BUT..... It was NOT meant in a derogatory way at all, it was meant Purely in humour...... I forget at times how different cultures and different people judge humour (especially online), but thank you for the compliment btw, it just means I have 2 pork swords to make the ladies squirm.

I will stand by my belief that anyone who openly hides behind the 'I cannot say' excuse though has little to no right to criticise anothers opinion (whether founded or not). If you do not wish to break anothers trust, or faith, in something they tell you then you should not 'dangle the carrot' by hinting that you know something in the first place as if and when your source is ready to make it public they will do.

Again, that is a cultural and personal way of looking at things, and if we were all the same it would be a Very sad place, but if as you say, you have EVERY right to criticise whatever you wish to, then so does everyone else...... Ergo the old adage, 'People in glass houses should not throw stones' (Please note that I am more than happy to be criticised as I know that at least half of what I say is pants lol)

To try and put it slightly better for you though.............. Why are you getting so irate at peoples opinions if you know the truth? It will come out soon enough so why insult people? It serves no purpose at all

[Ubefuct]

Originally Posted by master737373 I think they were just too quick to say what was the impossible without knowing what Sony's able to do.

My point exactly about this device

[master737373]

Lets put it this way, at least with hints, people can better figure things out.
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Originally Posted by Ubefuct My point exactly about this device

But these people know what they're doing.

[GraVoX959]

Originally Posted by Wolfie708 Ok, I guess I will have to retract the Sausage Head bit, BUT..... It was NOT meant in a derogatory way at all, it was meant Purely in humour...... I forget at times how different cultures and different people judge humour (especially online), but thank you for the compliment btw, it just means I have 2 pork swords to make the ladies squirm.

I thought as much which is why I tried to be funny also...

I will stand by my belief that anyone who openly hides behind the 'I cannot say' excuse though has little to no right to criticise anothers opinion (whether founded or not). If you do not wish to break anothers trust, or faith, in something they tell you then you should not 'dangle the carrot' by hinting that you know something in the first place as if and when your source is ready to make it public they will do.

Theres a fine line, Ive associated with people far smarter than myself for years. Ive learned whats acceptable to hint at and what is not. I dont do it to dangle a carrot and unless Im an actual beta tester of something I dont get access to it any quicker. I just realize that hackers/devs are real people and I treat them with respect and and talk to them the same way I would if we were at the pub having a beer.

Again, that is a cultural and personal way of looking at things, and if we were all the same it would be a Very sad place, but if as you say, you have EVERY right to criticise whatever you wish to, then so does everyone else...... Ergo the old adage, 'People in glass houses should not throw stones' (Please note that I am more than happy to be criticised as I know that at least half of what I say is pants lol) To try and put it slightly better for you though.............. Why are you getting so irate at peoples opinions if you know the truth? It will come out soon enough so why insult people? It serves no purpose at all

Well Im not going to lie.. I think... no I KNOW Im better than most people.
I say please & thank you, I help old ladies cross the road, I brush my teeth twice a day & Im a demon in the sack.
Couple that with 16+ yrs talking to people online