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Old 10-19-2012   #141
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Originally Posted by Amic3r View Post
@hellsing9 , i believe they were relating to keys used in BD-Drive secure connection, and not signing keys. You know, there are plenty of keys, it's not like whole system is protected by one key you know...
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Old 10-19-2012   #142
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Originally Posted by vanpeli View Post
Just convert to DEX and everything is fine
Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.
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Old 10-19-2012   #143
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Originally Posted by master737373 View Post
Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.
Much farther than an ODDE at this point in time. I would not mind having both though....
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Old 10-19-2012   #144
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15 pages of testosterone..... well minus the 2 pages of @GraVoX959 premenstrual posts...
ohh and the master keep backing him up.

When TF are you "Iluminate" gonna release the cfw....??????

your "Grand Master" over at crunch must have shared the plan ???

you gonna wait till dongles and USb, then go bang..... here you go minions, suck my I dick.......................
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Old 10-19-2012   #145
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Originally Posted by master737373 View Post
Yeah, keep doing that and see how far that goes.
Until now it goes very well
Playing my new and old Games on DEX 4.21 without any problems.
I have PSN access with 3.55 CFW on DEX..
So far now problems here..
It could be not better..
How far are you with your console
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Old 10-19-2012   #146
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Eeehhhh I'm not "backing" gravox, we just have the same points. We also know what we're talking about. ODDE will last a lot longer than Dex.
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Old 10-19-2012   #147
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Quoted for the record, good first message
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Also, if it works like the Xk3y for xbox, Firmware for the drive and the PS3 will not be touched. The firmware for the drive will be "emulated" using a micro linux board that will be a middleman for the drive and the motherboard. It can also be turned off so the drive will act as if directly connected. only the Drive KEY is needed so the hardware can present itself to the motherboard as the correct drive.
This is the "only" way for this to works "transparently"... what initially means that is not detectable, but this doesnt means is not blockable

I will keep my posture of doubt about if is blockable or not untill the next sony firmware after the release of 3k3y
The only argument that can make me change my mind if is somebody comes here and explains WITH LOT OF DETAIL how the device works, how the ps3 BD security works, and an explain of why yes/or/not is blockable... and i bet this is not going to happen, because the only ones that can explain all this by now are the 3k3y manufacturers :D

Originally Posted by nyarrgh View Post
It is not so unbelievable that this can also work on the PS3. Remember, This is working on the XBOX360 even though nobody has the "Keys" to the current xbox firmware. Just the "Key" to the Drive. The "key" to the drive also does not mean exactly the same as the encryption key, it's more the "Identification Key", that the motherboard expects from the drive.
I think the "drive key" in PS3 and XBOX360 are different concepts
In XBOX360 is working as a "hardware identifyer"... this means you have the key in the drive... and the same key in the motherboard flash... both must match... also, you have 2 options when replacing the drive (you can put the key of the new drive in your motherboard flash... or you can put the key in your motherboard in the new drive)
You can fill the key in your motherboard flash with zeroes... and then write one of the firmware releases from C4eva in the drive without changing the key (because the C4eva firmwares uses a key filled with zeroes)

In PS3 the key is used to encrypt the communications between motherboard<-->drive, is not a "hardware identifyer" like in XBOX360
The security related with the "hardware identifyer" was hacked lot of time ago, with the "remarry tools"... but the communications between motherboard<-->drive has been secured in the same way it was back in 2005 when the ps3 was released

Maybe im wrong, but this is an important difference, because if is like i think sony can "update" the security of this communication channel by adding more protections (and i mean "adding"... not "replacing"... something similar than what happened with metldr)
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The blue board at the right (that is placed between motherboard<--->BD and it seems is "intercepting" the data signals) is what makes the "switch" of the data lines to disable the 3k3y, and to "inject" the data sent by the other board (under the paper, running linux, connected to the display/buttons, and with an HDD attached as a peripheral)
Iirc they said one of the boards is a FPGA... probably is the blue board at the right
The board under the paper... maybe is "recycled" from the XBOX360 mods (when something works, better dont change it)
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Old 10-20-2012   #148
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Originally Posted by houtei View Post
this is retarded
https://www.facebook.com/x360key
http://www.x360keyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7853

I guess its been that bad on the ps3 scene you just assume everything's fake even when its clear its not... That article is just so misinformed i am not even going there...
news x360key's facebook was SHARED LINK, not posted it
also inside x360keyforum, it was SHARED LINK too

suspiciously at the bottom ps3 usb port not shown, so we can not see the connection from the cable to the pizza box.
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Old 10-20-2012   #149
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@sandungas .. What is it exactly you want to know? I actually happen to know a lot about BD's and a fair amount about the drive.
You could also have a look at the leaked code for the ODDE of DH's.. its not his code but its part (minus the important part) of a working ODDE.

@Simonbuck
FFS it "Illuminati"
"Illuminate" is what your face does when I blow on it
Hardly pre menstrual posts either, in a ridiculous thread full of braindead morons who know nothing but tout their ideas like its truth.. I suppose people posting actual truth would look a little foreign and out of place.
This thread has not served a purpose! The same info could have been garnered with a well thought set of questions, not some retarded pile of drivel disguised as truth.
All that has happened here is more people look stupid and hellsing... well he looks like hellsing as per usual (nuff said)
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Old 10-20-2012   #150
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Originally Posted by GraVoX959 View Post
@sandungas .. What is it exactly you want to know? I actually happen to know a lot about BD's and a fair amount about the drive.
You could also have a look at the leaked code for the ODDE of DH's.. its not his code but its part (minus the important part) of a working ODDE.

@Simonbuck
FFS it "Illuminati"
"Illuminate" is what your face does when I blow on it
Hardly pre menstrual posts either, in a ridiculous thread full of braindead morons who know nothing but tout their ideas like its truth.. I suppose people posting actual truth would look a little foreign and out of place.
This thread has not served a purpose! The same info could have been garnered with a well thought set of questions, not some retarded pile of drivel disguised as truth.
All that has happened here is more people look stupid and hellsing... well he looks like hellsing as per usual (nuff said)


DH is no more.
You said that what happened here is make people look stupid and you posting in here...so?

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