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Old 10-25-2012   #1
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DRM Dongles and lv0

Never really looked into dongles that much for obvious reasons. But now that we have lv0, couldn't we find the keys for some of them? It would be real nice to be able to decrypt the emu selfs from say Cobra USB

In my head this seems feasible but I'm not sure how much of a fight the dongle can put up or if all that is really needed at this point is actually a dev_flash dump of the Cobra CFW.
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Never really looked into dongles that much for obvious reasons. But now that we have lv0, couldn't we find the keys for some of them? It would be real nice to be able to decrypt the emu selfs from say Cobra USB

In my head this seems feasible but I'm not sure how much of a fight the dongle can put up or if all that is really needed at this point is actually a dev_flash dump of the Cobra CFW.
Was just thinking exactly the same thing. Now that we have access to a lower level loader aren't the protections placed on all the higher ones by dongles null and void?
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Instant oatmeal.
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Be patient that's all. Something will come in a matter of secs., mins., hrs., days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, or even a millennium.

Understand that people may have their questions about the lv0 capabilities and what can be delivered from them but process isn't *instant*.

And as well I just wanted an awkward post that grabs attention.
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OH PLEEZZEEE give us PSP! i need some dj max back in my life.

i think your point is valid, but i'm not sure, i'm not a dev. this is probably how the drm dongles were made.
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I don't think so. The reason is that on the older firmwares, metldr was the loader that contained all the others (except bootldr and lv0 of course) and lv0 was not really used for anything other than setting up the hardware. We already had metldr exploited.

Then in 3.56+ firmwares, Sony encapsulated everything into lv0. So lv0 is now the equivalent of what metldr was on 3.55 and earlier.

To my understanding, this won't help much with dongles which are no doubt signed with different keys.

For more information on how the consoles boot:
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Boot_Order
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3.55 culd go lv0 - metldr -lv1.... You could decrypt cobra belive me:D just let it time, for devs to fully understand lv0.
Edit: By looking into lv0 you get the needed keys for other ldrs. It doesnt matter if they have different keys we will have them if we decrypt everything by stages. We could patch the cobra dongle but you would need to reverse....

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3.55 culd go lv0 - metldr -lv1.... You could decrypt cobra belive me:D just let it time, for devs to fully understand lv0.
Edit: By looking into lv0 you get the needed keys for other ldrs. It doesnt matter if they have different keys we will have them if we decrypt everything by stages. We could patch the cobra dongle but you would need to reverse....
Metldr was already exploited and lv0 never loaded metldr in the first place. So it does not matter that lv0 is exploited. Lv0 never loaded anything prior to 3.60.

Lv0 keys mean nothing when lv0 couldn't have been used for dongles.

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I have a feeling rebugs cfw will have cobra features included .
Watch this space.....


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