[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief I have read it and Euss says that's all made up BS. It does not brick converted DEX's. That would be lawsuit material against Sony. Also, I have a haunch that scene devs want to keep the public, those "beneath" them, on a lower DEX FW as much as possible.... That's why we only get get DEX FW's after the they are outdated.

Lawsuit? Converting Cex2Dex is illegal..
Its modifying the Software.

EFFECTIVE DATE: October 28, 2012. Game console modding: Illegal Modding your game console to run software other than what came on the device is still illegal for the same reason that unlocking a smartphone is illegal — it requires changes to the firmware, which are copyright protected. Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...#ixzz2AYEkYa4P

[hellsing9]

Nice one on there @MARA87

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 Lawsuit? Converting Cex2Dex is illegal.. Its modifying the Software.

Ah, but an EULA is not law. It is not illegal, it is just something the company looks down upon. You yourself never reverse engineer any closed source software in the process, you only install an OFW onto your own console.

Rooting my Android phone is not illegal either. Android is OSS. :P

[psg]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief That would be lawsuit material against Sony.

The fact that you ran an update that you weren't supposed to: a) have; b) be able to run without modifications that go against their TOS; c) only is supposed to work on non-commercial versions of the hardware, is not grounds for a lawsuit by any stretch of the imagination.

You would be laughed out of the court.

[ryant001]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief Ah, but an EULA is not law. It is not illegal, it is just something the company looks down upon. You yourself never reverse engineer any closed source software in the process, you only install an OFW onto your own console. Rooting my Android phone is not illegal either. Android is OSS. :P

Obviously this does not apply to $ony :
http://www.ps3hax.net/2012/10/anothe...their-pockets/

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by ryant001 Obviously this does not apply to $ony : http://www.ps3hax.net/2012/10/anothe...their-pockets/

An EULA can be used in court. You signed it, therefore you agree to abide by its contents, BUT it is not law. It can be thrown out in court if it infringes upon the rights of the consumer too much.

Originally Posted by psg The fact that you ran an update that you weren't supposed to: a) have; b) be able to run without modifications that go against their TOS; c) only is supposed to work on non-commercial versions of the hardware, is not grounds for a lawsuit by any stretch of the imagination. You would be laughed out of the court.

This is not a case of warranty, this is a manufacturer breaking your console because you have done something to it they do not like. Akin to a car manufacturer breaking your engine because you replaced your stock intake with one from a better model of the same car.

[pandahao]

noob question whats DEX and CEX?

[ryant001]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief An EULA can be used in court. You signed it, therefore you agree to abide by its contents, BUT it is not law. It can be thrown out in court if it infringes upon the rights of the consumer too much.

Already happened multiple times and $ony won EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[hellsing9]

Seriously is a release anybody cares about sony and their stupid lawsuits?.
If you are converted well...**** this is if you converted to DEX are you enjoy it? I guess the response is YES.

Come on! don't be so sour and turn this thread into a debate about legal or illegal movements.

[psg]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief Akin to a care manufacturer breaking your engine because you replaced your stock intake with one from a better model of the same car.

Great analogy! Perfect, even! See, if you have to modify your engine completely for the new intake to work, and then the new intake -- for whatever reason -- happens to break your car, you cannot sue the car company either, because you have used a part that wasn't made to be used with your model. Not to mention, that you previously have signed a EULA which clearly states that you shan't modify the car, which secures their position even more. And that's leaving out the part where you weren't even supposed to have the new intake, because it's not meant to be for the consumer market.

All Sony would have to do, is show that the change that bricks CEX2DEX consoles has some sort of purpose -- no matter how minor -- for legitimate DEX consoles, and they would be completely in the clear.

No matter how you twist and turn it, this is far from lawsuit grounds.