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Old 10-29-2012   #11
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See i have a BC ps3 so im good on the emulation side, i just need a loader to be able to play my ps2 and psp backups, MM already allows me to do so with my PSX backups wich is nice. the second gen consoles like @alienkid posted will never have full compatability like the BC models. Im sure its possible to write a loader for ps2 backups and psp backups, im just not profficent enough in that codeing field to do so, otherwise i would have by now ^_^
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How else does the Cobra do what it does? It works with non-BC PS3s. The CFW of Cobra takes the "removed files" and replaces them with working ones, all the dongle does is just verify to the CFW that it's there.
ment to say " require a loader " not a emualtor lol, as the BC models already emulate it ^_^
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Old 10-29-2012   #12
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Originally Posted by snkysnake02 View Post
ment to say " require a loader " not a emulator lol, as the BC models already emulate it ^_^
At that moment, I was actually referring to the software emulator that the Cobra's CFW loads on the Non-BC models. As I have a CECHA01, I also have a BC PS3 that is not being properly utilized given the fact that I refuse to pay for something that should have been included with the other means of backup play. (Not saying devs need to work harder, just one dev who has the know-how but instead sold out and is masking the "Loader" from free users. Don't flame me, I;'m just merely stating a fact.)
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Old 10-29-2012   #13
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If I knew how to write a loader or port one too the ps3 I so would ^_^ so the BC consoles like ours could be fully utilized ^_^

That would just be so bad ass, loading my ps2, ps3 and PSP backups ^_^ I would be so content lol
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You and me both, it sucks that ours are rare. Why the phuck did $ony take away features from their console? Oh yeah... and many stripped down PS3s later, the devs in the underground scene still achieved what $ony set out to block and in the process pissed off consumers and created a bunch of new underground sceners. Foolish Big Wigs, spending money to try to delay the inevitable and all wasted for nothing.
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Old 10-29-2012   #15
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See I read somewhere that the goal was to get back otheOS, honestly I think the goal should have been that and bringing BC back as well. We all know its possible, and would be quick fix. Question is why did alot of original devs step out after otherOS was brought back, when Sony removed so much more too. I understand the law suit fear BS, but obviously this "inner circle" is calling Sony's bluff with all this new stuff the public community has now to make ps3 completely open.
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Sony can't stop all of us as a collection, now that we all have this knowledge. It dosnt matter who Sony goes after, someone will just pick up the pieces and it will continue on and on. Were like herpes on Sony's massive **** of screwing people lmao
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Originally Posted by snkysnake02 View Post
See I read somewhere that the goal was to get back otheOS, honestly I think the goal should have been that and bringing BC back as well. We all know its possible, and would be quick fix. Question is why did alot of original devs step out after otherOS was brought back, when Sony removed so much more too. I understand the law suit fear BS, but obviously this "inner circle" is calling Sony's bluff with all this new stuff the public community has now to make ps3 completely open.
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Sony can't stop all of us as a collection, now that we all have this knowledge. It dosnt matter who Sony goes after, someone will just pick up the pieces and it will continue on and on. Were like herpes on Sony's massive **** of screwing people lmao
Goal achieved, many just simply lost interest and because their intentions were true and they honestly didn't want to have an open fully pirated system. (which I admit was a scapegoat for future devs *cough*matheluth*cough* and would have most likely halted more lucrative tittles on the system) Plus, if $ony stopped the development of the emulation of the emotion engine, why would anyone else pick it up especially without the tools that $ony had?

Now Sony is losing more money than they are making. No source, but why suddenly stop suing and chasing down devs like Graf? Because they finally realize that they are flushing money down the toilet since most of these devs don't have money and all that happens is they get put into a jail cell and no compensation is every rewarded to $ony, the work gets leaked out and we have our current situation. (Just so you know, I am agreeing with you and being condescending towards $ony. Hard to tell where anger is directed in text sometimes.)
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Plus, at the time they brought back OtherOS, there were more non-BC PS3s out there, and now they are just as rare as a DECR tool system.
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Old 10-29-2012   #17
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Sony took features away to save on the cost. Gotta be competitive, then it got put on the backburner. Permanently.

Also, many devs may not want to crack the Cobra USB dongle. I mean, work was put into it to make it function. Since no one else knows how it was done you can't really claim they are on the same bandwagon as those that tried to profit from the lv0.

You can all complain blah blah blah DRM dongle. But if they fully developed the emulation they have every right to charge for their work.

That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to someone cracking it
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Originally Posted by Elegant View Post
Sony took features away to save on the cost. Gotta be competitive, then it got put on the backburner. Permanently.

Also, many devs may not want to crack the Cobra USB dongle. I mean, work was put into it to make it function. Since no one else knows how it was done you can't really claim they are on the same bandwagon as those that tried to profit from the lv0.

You can all complain blah blah blah DRM dongle. But if they fully developed the emulation they have every right to charge for their work.

That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to someone cracking it
They did not develop the emulation. The emulators are already present in the PS3. PS1, PS2, and PSP Emulators were all done by Sony. All these guys did was a find a way to patch the PS2 and PSP emulators to load games.

They do not have any right to charge for their work because it involves modifying or reverse engineering proprietary code written by Sony. That is highly illegal. Neither do they have a right to reDRM the firmware.
No piracy dongle stands on any form of legal ground because they broke the law when they modified Sony's proprietary code, a PS3 firmware.
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Originally Posted by Elegant View Post
Sony took features away to save on the cost. Gotta be competitive, then it got put on the backburner. Permanently.

Also, many devs may not want to crack the Cobra USB dongle. I mean, work was put into it to make it function. Since no one else knows how it was done you can't really claim they are on the same bandwagon as those that tried to profit from the lv0.

You can all complain blah blah blah DRM dongle. But if they fully developed the emulation they have every right to charge for their work.

That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to someone cracking it
All due respect and I'm being serious when I say that, so it's ok for $ony to have used many open sourced tools to make the PS3 work and function like it does (i.e. jpeg and linux for example) and then lock it up and say "You can't change anything on our open sourced based gaming platform." While someone else and comes along, cracks it, then re-secures it and turns around and charges for it?

Two wrongs don't make a right, neither $ony (technically they can by law, doesn't make it right to profit from others work, whether they charge or not) nor these damned DRM makers have a right to do that and that just makes them BOTH worse than pirates who give and take for "free" all around.

Sorry, rant over. As much as I dislike people who profit off of the free work of others, unfortunately the entire computer era is based off of one idea that spawned into thousands of millions of ideas that got stacked on top of one another. Plus, times are phucking tough thanks to big corporations like $ony that stack cheddar but sit on it and don't re-distribute the profits. Every man has to fend for his family, by any means necessary.

Still doesn't mean I have to agree with it, but I hope Cobra is eventually cracked.

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Some shape or form we're all victims of $ony'$ corporate bullsh*t when it come to their products.

Besides from that Cobra should go ahead implement all their sh*t into a cfw thats available to everyone without compensation. Turn a wrong into a right.
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