[howieumd]

I had three quick questions I was hoping to get some help with.

1) I have a Weller WES51 soldering kit. What is a safe temperature to set this at to properly solder to the board?
2) It seems like the recommended wire length is 15 cm, which is about 6 inches. I have dual NAND, with the NAND on each side of the MOB (cok-001). It seems like I need about 10 inches of wire to properly get it from one side to the other, maybe that length just for the chip on the bottom, while I can still go with 6 inches for the rest of the wire on the top of the board. Is this ok, even though not recommended?
3) Does anybody have a wiring diagram for this board? I see ones on PS3DEVWIKI, but it says not to use, as those are just test points. I'm assuming I'm to wire directly to the NAND itself, not the test points, correct?

Thank you!

[aragorn]

Originally Posted by Sarah1331 Back them up first

How? I can't use ftp server anymore...

[the_lost_soul]

Originally Posted by baileyscream the clip is not a perfect fit. so it needs preassure to make the pins inside the clip touch the legs of the nor chip. if you put glue inside the chip. no matter how small will create more hight to the chip making it even more difficult to connect propperly. while the glue is wet (before it sets) it is conductive so if any glue is touching the pins or legs then it will short the chip if you test with the flasher to see if you get a good dump before it sets so you need to wait for the glue to set so you can test. if you get bad dumps or bad writes then its too late to re-adjust the clip. if any gle gets on the legs or pins then when it sets it will insulate that connection and if you can manage to remove the clip after the glue has set then it will be next to impossible to gemove the glue from the legs / pins without bending them. just use the clip for downgraging. if you want to keep the E3 attached then use the E3 linker and solder the wires. this is alot more work but well worth it as its a more stable way to do it. dont do the stupid coin on clip that the wiki says to do. this is the worst thing you can do to your console and the person that put that in the wiki should be shot for his stupidity. who in there right mind tells someone to jam a peice of metal in there console!! if it comes loose then it only has one place to go..... right ontop of your main board.....BANG!... they freek out over bloody finger prints when the board has a protective coating on it to prevent oxidization (what happenes when salt (in this case refering to what your body produces) reacts with copper. its NOT bloody greasy fingers!) that coating however wont stop a coin shorting the board the adice they put in the wiki is shocking

well i was getting ready for E3 Clip version. But for E3 Linker. I'm Not sure it it comes with the limited edition version. and i have no clue were to solder the pins to.

would i follow this picture hare: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/images/1/1...-progskeet.jpg

it came from hare:
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Hardw...shing#Tristate

but it's not very accurate on showing were to solder from linker to the board.

hare is the NOR Flash table i show's you all the pins were you need to solder:
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Templ...R-Flashertable

But i cannot find a match with which pin layout the picture is referring to.

and would i have to solder all the pins on the linker? including TriState?

I looked at the linker in the PS3. it had a lot of cables connected wouldn't be wise to close it up.

all i wanted in the first place something small like the clip but permanent. not a big mess.

are you sure there is no way to secure the clip in a permanent position?

like i could have a peace of wood putting pressure on the clip as i over it with Epoxy. and when it dries i break of the peace of wood (IE Toothpick) and it should stay under that pressure for ever.

you know like people say use tape to tape the clip down right. why not do the same thing with Glue/Epoxy put pressure on it while you glue it down. on Top Side not Inside the Clip.

like would it interfere with the Processes if i got Glue one of the circuits. Or a Resister Covered on it (i think not as they are thin but still won't be insulated as glue cannot penetrate metal)
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This What i mean By Securing the Clip:


The Red Boxes Mean = Representing the small holes on the E3 Clip.
The Green Lines/Boxes = Tape To cover the small holes on the E3 Clip
The Light Blue Lines/Boxes = Epoxy/Glue Covering The Areas.
Green Text = While Applying Pressure. Epoxy covers area. and dries. once dry. Pressure is released and hopefully stays that way.

The picture may not show but what i would want to be doing is putting a thin layer of Epoxy on the top/the sides and a bit on the Board to secure the clip.

The question is how many layers of Epoxy/Glue would i put on? - (i Prefer Epoxy)

i was thinking a thin layer but that could crumble eventually. (How strong is Epoxy?)

Is this Method Safe or Stupid?

[afzoo3hax]

Originally Posted by the_lost_soul Is this Method Safe or Stupid?

It depends entirely on the mechanical properties of the E3 clip. If the epoxy would be sufficient enough to keep it mated? For example the plastic of the clip may itself bend and give, or distort somewhat the inside positions of the contacts. I certainly have no idea.

Since gluing is meant to be permanment measure, you should first try to exhaust other options. For example, were you aware that it is actually the tiny contacts *inside* the clip often don't reach / push mate down against the nand legs sufficiently. So the first thing to do is wipe the contacts inside the clip (and the legs of the NAND) with isopropyl alcohol to make sure they are going to make the best possible electrical connection. Now imagine if you had already glued your clip but had not done that yet. You couldn't go back without applying a log of force to be ripping it out of there.

Some people (myself for example). Tend to be rather untrusting of the clip as a permanent solution. They can disegage / ping off eventually, or for example if your system is knocked about a bit. Even in the best circumstances, a clip might sometimes never seat evenly in the first place. So at the very least, make sure you clip is fully working before you glue it. Ie take some flash dumps and verify them.

[the_lost_soul]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax It depends entirely on the mechanical properties of the E3 clip. If the epoxy would be sufficient enough to keep it mated? For example the plastic of the clip may itself bend and give, or distort somewhat the inside positions of the contacts. I certainly have no idea. Since gluing is meant to be permanment measure, you should first try to exhaust other options. For example, were you aware that it is actually the tiny contacts *inside* the clip often don't reach / push mate down against the nand legs sufficiently. So the first thing to do is wipe the contacts inside the clip (and the legs of the NAND) with isopropyl alcohol to make sure they are going to make the best possible electrical connection. Now imagine if you had already glued your clip but had not done that yet. You couldn't go back without applying a log of force to be ripping it out of there. Some people (myself for example). Tend to be rather untrusting of the clip as a permanent solution. They can disegage / ping off eventually, or for example if your system is knocked about a bit. Even in the best circumstances, a clip might sometimes never seat evenly in the first place. So at the very least, make sure you clip is fully working before you glue it. Ie take some flash dumps and verify them.

O so i would wipe them down inside the clip and the Top of the NOR Chip with alcohol wipes?

then put it on and assemble the battery and fan and plug in the power.

without fully assembling it?

so if i can take a successful dump without any errors, i can glue it right? then full assemble it.

do the dump's have to be verified B4 the clip is glued. waiting for another person to double check the dump's could take a while + having an incapacitated Ps3 kinda looks weird.
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+ should i worry about the heat-sync pad's i was thinking of replacing the thermal paste on them.

[3absiso]

@baileyscream
I downgraded a Slim PS3 yesterday, Slim 25xx, Date Code 0D, Samsung Nor (QI4D).
the Downgrade went fine and the De-hashing,
The Dump was validated using your guide in addition to the info included in the PS3Wiki validation Talk Page (although nothing major to add just checking offsets and lenghts)
but when you turn the PS3 for about 30 -45) min it freeze and gives me weird color on the TV, and had to shut it off and wait till cool.
i know it is a GBU and Heating issue? or it is a hardware flue?
is Re-Fowing the GPU going to help? (Thermal paste changed during the downgrade).
One more thing: why the hell it happens to me with the 0D code PS3 Only :-)?

[moiz41510]

I got a different HEX for BOOTLDR (using E3 Flasher), is that ok?

[3absiso]

Originally Posted by moiz41510 I got a different HEX for BOOTLDR (using E3 Flasher), is that ok?

post your Nor in the Dumb Validation Thread, someone will help

[the_lost_soul]

Just to Make sure B4 I Purchase any thing.

this what i would need for E3 Flasher Installation:

E3 Flasher Limited Edition
E3 Card Reader / Downgrader - Can this be used as a downgrade dongle?
Eclipse (eclips3) Downgrade Dongle - would this be recomended to use then the E3 Card Reader to downgrade PS3?
Epoxy - Glue
Tape
Toothpick
USB Stick - 8gb
Micro Sd Card - SanDisk - 8gb
Philips driver’s (PH1 & PH0) - I know where i can get a regular Philips Screw Driver but have no clue how a PH1 and PH0 Looks like or were to obtain one from Australia, Victoria.
Would Bunnings warehouse sell them?
Torx driver (T8)
Alcohol wipes
Thermal Paste
Cardboard - Now what type of cardboard would i need. in the strip down of ps3 slim i see that the cardboard is placed on top of new thermal paste. + does it matter if i replace the paste or not?
Soldering iron
Solder
Wire - For TriState Connection to the E3 Ribbon

Am i missing any thing else?

[3absiso]

@baileyscream
in the statistic check baily the left column percentage is now 18.38% and not 18.71%, since i checked one now that has 18.39% (doubled check with PS3wiki it is 18.38%.
it must have been updated?
PEACE