[first2bomb]

PS4 less powerful then the xbox720 :0 well lets hope that rumor about Blu ray games being tied in to 1 PSN account....... I will only want to buy PS4 or xbox720 if they get hacked which hopefully they will do (every security code is broken eventually) but it will take a very long time as I am pretty sure sony is going to obsesses over security and say things like "hacker proof".

[MysterySword]

Originally Posted by first2bomb PS4 less powerful then the xbox720 :0 well lets hope that rumor about Blu ray games being tied in to 1 PSN account....... I will only want to buy PS4 or xbox720 if they get hacked which hopefully they will do (every security code is broken eventually) but it will take a very long time as I am pretty sure sony is going to obsesses over security and say things like "hacker proof".

If you look at the Vita, it does seem likely games for PS4 will be attached to a single PSN account.

Also, it makes more sense that the next Xbox would be more powerful. Epic Games, the people behind the Unreal Engine have been telling MS and Sony that their consoles need better hardware. That's something MS can afford, but Sony is doing so bad financially that if they do release a console, it'd have to pay off; they can't afford to sell it at a loss.

With that said, rumors about Sony have always been more accurate, so the rumors concerning MS may not even be true at all.

[Isleofdoom]

Dont get me wrong these are nice features if they are true but at the same time using a usb dongle for added features you are basically paying for your games a 2nd time if you think about it. 70-100 for this added bonus now multiply for how many users will get it for the extras adds up really fast. N lets not mention how sony will probly add extras where they can to make more money from the people who do get this.

[McHaggis]

This all sounds like horse **** to me. I don't see why they'd change the branding of XBox Live, nor throw away profits from $120-180 worth of subscription fees to make the console $100-200 cheaper. Nor do I see them launching a $499 console, although we all know that worked so well for another company not too long ago.

Like someone else said, both rumours look more like wishlists than anything credible.

[TitaniumL]

Originally Posted by Isleofdoom Dont get me wrong these are nice features if they are true but at the same time using a usb dongle for added features you are basically paying for your games a 2nd time if you think about it. 70-100 for this added bonus now multiply for how many users will get it for the extras adds up really fast. N lets not mention how sony will probly add extras where they can to make more money from the people who do get this.

I have close to a 100 PS3 games, so buying a BC dongle surely isn't the same as buying all these games a 2nd time.

[Isleofdoom]

I have close to a 100 PS3 games, so buying a BC dongle surely isn't the same as buying all these games a 2nd time.

I was refering to the whole thing in profit margin if you look at it that way. Dongles cost around $15 to 20 to make now add each user buying this as they buy the console. even 200 ppl buying this is a 20,000 venue on a cheap dongle to make huge profit. n not every1 has a huge collection of ps2 games.

[arwynj55]

that's $ony for ya.... shame tho sony youst to a good company now they aint

[Isleofdoom]

It dnt make Sony a bad company just means they are tryn to make profit from what we have found but what they forgot is how we got around them in the end. They are badly going under n will do anything to get themselves out of debt like any of us wod do. But out of all honesty I think they should start working there games from HDD your disc has a key once entered never have to do it again just like steam. I see more profit there than dongles

[japsander]

releasing BC seperately "should" lower the consoles price at retail. not everybody wants BC

doubtful but we shall see

[xgame511]

Originally Posted by japsander releasing BC seperately "should" lower the consoles price at retail. not everybody wants BC doubtful but we shall see

Exactly! Cheaper off the bat and less confusing in the long run