[BobbyBangin]

There are thousands of unemployed war veterans. We should just pay them to post up outside of schools. If the department of corrections can buy 40,000 chairs at $800 a chair for chairs that retail at $79, I don't see why we can't reallocate that money to something more sensible like this.

This is Switzerland where adults are required to own assault rifles and it's a very safe country.


This is an Israeli teacher with her class...


This captures my sentiments...

[Annelies]

Originally Posted by Bigbones87 Because if we ban guns, then there would be no way for a crazed lunatic to obtain a firearm and shoot up your school or work. And when he does obtain one, he can carry out his crazed murdering with pretty good certainty that no one in these buildings will have a gun to stop him. That makes sense. Personally, when someone comes to shoot the mall up, and your there, and I blast his ass with my gun, and save your life. You can thank me then.

I can already see it now. Another movie theater incident where somebody lets off a shot, nobody knows who fired because it's so dark, and then since everybody is a paranoid wreck with a gun, the whole theater is blasting at each other because they don't know who the culprit is.

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by Annelies I can already see it now. Another movie theater incident where somebody lets off a shot, nobody knows who fired because it's so dark, and then since everybody is a paranoid wreck with a gun, the whole theater is blasting at each other because they don't know who the culprit is.

If you read my post above you'll see that people usually don't walk into places with a gun where people already have a gun. Mass shootings are held by people who are generally cowards.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin This is an Israeli teacher with her class...

Not a great example, most people know how Israelis love murdering Palestinians, but that's another thread/another debate.

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Not a great example, most people know how Israelis love murdering Palestinians, but that's another thread/another debate.

Say what you want about Israelis but in the context of this picture her sole purpose is for that of the protection of these children. As far as the Palestine/Israeli debate goes they are both clearly in the wrong. I have friends on both sides and I worry about them all. The innocent people are the ones who pay the price for their governments misdeeds.

[Bigbones87]

Originally Posted by Annelies I can already see it now. Another movie theater incident where somebody lets off a shot, nobody knows who fired because it's so dark, and then since everybody is a paranoid wreck with a gun, the whole theater is blasting at each other because they don't know who the culprit is.

I can see it now. A movie theater filled with people who are unarmed and stand no chance against someone who comes in there and starts to shoot the place up. Let's see....12 dead and 59 injured. Thats not a lot. Would have been a whole lot more dead or injured if 2 or 3 of those people had been carrying a weapon and could have at least tried to defend themselves and others, rather than hide behind theater seats and wait for their turn. Ask them if they could tell who was shooting. Movie theaters are pretty bright with a picture onscreen.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Say what you want about Israelis but in the context of this picture her sole purpose is for that of the protection of these children. As far as the Palestine/Israeli debate goes they are both clearly in the wrong. I have friends on both sides and I worry about them all. The innocent people are the ones who pay the price for their governments misdeeds.

If you thing Palestine is wrong, then everything you are saying about YOUR right to bear arms is wrong.

You cannot advocate the right to own guns for your personal protection and to protect your home, then say Palestine is wrong, that is hypocritical and contradictory.

Everyday a Palestinian is murdered in his own country, in his own land because these murdering Israelis who own guns and steal their land are coming in and shooting them.

Finally in the early 1900's the hole of what is now the fake state of Israel, was called Palestine, by the help of the British, the Jewish minority slowly took over the country, something which they continue to do today.

So just as you bear arms to defend your country/home, an Israeli bears arms to take away another persons country/home.

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin If you thing Palestine is wrong, then everything you are saying about YOUR right to bear arms is wrong. You cannot advocate the right to own guns for your personal protection and to protect your home, then say Palestine is wrong, that is hypocritical and contradictory. Everyday a Palestinian is murdered in his own country, in his own land because these murdering Israelis who own guns and steal their land are coming in and shooting them. Finally in the early 1900's the hole of what is now the fake state of Israel, was called Palestine, by the help of the British, the Jewish minority slowly took over the country, something which they continue to do today. So just as you bear arms to defend your country/home, an Israeli bears arms to take away another persons country/home.

I'm not debating the land or who has a right to be there. If I wanted to do that I would go back to the Muslim conquests of 800 AD and talk about who really stole what from who. That territory would stretch all the way from Turkey to modern day Egypt and Morocco. The feud is only 6,000 years in the making. But I'm not debating that. It's not hypocritical at all. Not when I think they both deserve a statehood and a land and not when they're both firing rockets at each other. In both cases innocent civilians are the ones being hurt. Not Hamas and not Israeli government who are the ones killing people. Like I said, I know Palestinians and Israeli's who wouldn't hurt a fly but then again, they're not the ones harming people.

[tenoob]

Originally Posted by KillerBug Not to mention the somewhat questionable circumstances...All of these mass shootings right in the wake of fast and furious raise some serious questions...if they were willing to arm cartels to make the second amendment look bad, and (at least the coverup) goes all the way to the president, it isn't too far fetched to think that the sudden increase in mass murders is a bit more than suspicious. We know that the Aurora guy was under the care of a military physiatrist, and that his guns and ammunition were bought with government money from a student grant that was available to him as cash instead of being locked to tuition...if that much leaked out, who knows what they managed to keep secret.

There is a couple conspiracy theories going on around this.

Both the Colorado shooter and the Sandy Hook shooter's fathers are connected in some way.

Has to with the LIBOR scandal.

http://spotlightoncorruption.wordpre...heater-busted/

Then there is this...

http://api.ning.com/files/jtl6fAHESz...ndy_Hook_1.jpg

Sandy Hook reference in The Dark Knight Batman movie.
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Originally Posted by Annelies I think a large portion of America's gun owners are rednecks from the southern boonies. I see sumethin' move, I shoot it!

Only because in stupid LIB states the gun laws are ****ing stupid like in my native state of California.

Yeah lets make gun laws strict, so instead of gangsters shooting each other with .22's they can shoot guns out of cars with AKM's, Mac-10's, Uzi's and other military grade hardware.

Less collateral damage. [sarcasm]

As dumb as most people think rednecks are, at least they are smart enough to realize this 'gun control' debate is a ploy to take away our 2nd amendment.
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Originally Posted by Annelies Or, maybe the rest are people that shouldn't have to feel the need to be armed to the teeth when going to school or going to work.

Not all of us can live in cozy northern bay area San Fran.

I grew up in the gutter, ghetto Eastside Long Beach (born and raised).

What do you know about that life?

What do you know about the L.A. riots?

I saw my neighborhood burn down at age 7.

Most of my neighbors didn't own firearms, when the riots came a lot of them
either got killed or robbed because they had no way to defend themselves (and the police where nowhere to be found).

All the piece of **** low lifes were armed to the teeth though, and they weren't civilian class weapons either.

If my neighbors hadn't been brainwashed into thinking the police would always be there they might of had guns to protect themselves but they didn't.

My neighbors were stupid liberals though, and they died because of their stupid ideology.

Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

Tragedy is less likely to smite you down if you are prepared, bottom line.

[madman158]

Originally Posted by Annelies I can already see it now. Another movie theater incident where somebody lets off a shot, nobody knows who fired because it's so dark, and then since everybody is a paranoid wreck with a gun, the whole theater is blasting at each other because they don't know who the culprit is.

If that is the case then in the armed forces when the first shot goes off and they are not prepared for it they all shot one another. But that is not the case. Why?? They are trained about how to use and respect a gun. Then know what it sounds like. So they dont panic when it goes off. They are trainer if a gun goes off out of nowhere to duck, cover and prepare. Now if you had read what i said before (If you are even reading this) instead of think that i dont agree with you that im just a "rednecks from the southern boonies". I said TRAIN how to use and RESPECT a gun.



*** Oh by the way. Im from Glens Falls NY. I got bachelor's degree for industrial machine repair and i drive a jag. Not some poor, uneducated white farmer. Unless you are calling me a bigot. Cause that would make you a bigot/redneck too. Its uncalled for to be name calling when i took no shots at you.***

I grew up in the gutter, ghetto Eastside Long Beach (born and raised).

The funny thing is you dont hear about this crap in the ghetto. Not saying it can not or will not happen their but they are more prepared for it ( metal detectors cops on site and you never know who else is carrying). Its almost always the suburbs. Ask yourself why that is? Could it be cause they are more prone to be victims?