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Old 12-19-2012   #31
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Originally Posted by digiprog View Post
yes ofcourse sarah.. u know educational purpose only :P
Am sure you could add a 3.3v adaptor to the clip it's self to get your feed just for testing lol


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Old 12-19-2012   #32
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Am sure you could add a 3.3v adaptor to the clip it's self to get your feed just for testing lol


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yepp .. i just wish the skeet arrives already ..
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Old 12-19-2012   #33
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No you woudnt if you powered it from the console and not the skeet it's still grounded and powered from the console or ex psu

Same for nor but like I have said eairler nor needs external power ( I know you didn't say you didn't)


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i think i have said about enough then in this thread
and guess i must know nothing about downgrading
sorry to bother to you
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Old 12-19-2012   #34
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Not downgrading but simple electronic bro


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Not downgrading but simple electronic bro


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im not stupid
if u have an external psu the u have 2 wires for that power source to work
1. 3.3v
2. gnd

therefore u must connect both to Y adapter
or the clip dont work cos no power will be working
i think u are getting confused in what i am saying but like i said i think i have said enough now in this thread ( i dont want it to turn into an argument)

and for the record im an electronics engineer too
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Originally Posted by domelec View Post
im not stupid
if u have an external psu the u have 2 wires for that power source to work
1. 3.3v
2. gnd

therefore u must connect both to Y adapter
or the clip dont work cos no power will be working
i think u are getting confused in what i am saying but like i said i think i have said enough now in this thread ( i dont want it to turn into an argument)

and for the record im an electronics engineer too
I don't mean to get your back up pal
Guess we both mean same thing and putting it different ways

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Ooo, here I go again:

The 'transistor' you speak of is a REGULATOR. Standard 3 pin device: Vin, GND, Vout.

I recognize them as being LM1117-3V3 in an SOT-223 package. The datasheet for this LDO regulator suggests that it is capable of passing up to 800mA, however this is the rating of the silicon - the small package and the lack of heat-sinking (which is not even provided by increased copper around this regulator) suggests that continuous current rating would probably be under half this.

P=IVdrop. So if we need 1.5A and Vdrop is 5.0-3.3 = 1.7 gives 1.7 x 1.5 = 2.55 Watts!!! In case you are wondering THAT IS A LOT for a SOT223 package.

350mA is fine though, SOT223 should be OK at 600mW.

For the record, there is a simple technique where by a Power Transistor can be used to by-pass the regulator but at the same time use the regulator for it's intended job, that is to provide a REGULATED supply rail at a fixed voltage (in this case 3.3V).

Anyway all of this is academic in my mind. There are some high-current 3.3V power sources already on the PS3, so why dick about (with things like ATX power supplies) when one is already there to be used.

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because on most nand consoles u cant use the solderless clip on with the ps3 psu connected

ie the sem-001 has 1 nand under the psu therfore needing an external source
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Originally Posted by underwurlde View Post
Ooo, here I go again:

The 'transistor' you speak of is a REGULATOR. Standard 3 pin device: Vin, GND, Vout.

I recognize them as being LM1117-3V3 in an SOT-223 package. The datasheet for this LDO regulator suggests that it is capable of passing up to 800mA, however this is the rating of the silicon - the small package and the lack of heat-sinking (which is not even provided by increased copper around this regulator) suggests that continuous current rating would probably be under half this.

P=IVdrop. So if we need 1.5A and Vdrop is 5.0-3.3 = 1.7 gives 1.7 x 1.5 = 2.55 Watts!!! In case you are wondering THAT IS A LOT for a SOT223 package.

350mA is fine though, SOT223 should be OK at 600mW.

For the record, there is a simple technique where by a Power Transistor can be used to by-pass the regulator but at the same time use the regulator for it's intended job, that is to provide a REGULATED supply rail at a fixed voltage (in this case 3.3V).

Anyway all of this is academic in my mind. There are some high-current 3.3V power sources already on the PS3, so why dick about (with things like ATX power supplies) when one is already there to be used.

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^ Learn something new every day. Never bothered with all that bloody wiring and use of cr@ppy clips. I just remove the NANDs, stick 'em on a PCB for direct connection to a ProgSkeet v1.2 which until recently DID NOT WORK for me. B@st @rd does now though

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