[ChaseHammer]

I think the technology is already there. If you look at PlayStation All-Stars for PS3. To get the PS Vita download you have to register/link the disc with your account and once its there it cannot be used by any other account.

Truthfully DRM will end up killing the industry. Dont tell me stuff about how used game sales hurt the devs/pubs because they dont. People have been selling used games at yard sales forever and its never mattered before. A sale is a sale it shouldnt matter what I do with it after I buy it or who's shelf it sits on.

[Wolfie708]

If you are in the EU, they cannot do a thing about it.

You can sell your software on however you choose to, this includes physical media or purely digital download.

They can set in practice whatever they wish to prevent multiple copies being used at the same time, but in the EU, unless you purchase software which has a time based license, then their 'exclusive rights' clause has no bearing or validity after the initial sale...... Unless the ruling has been changed since it came in on 03/07/12 (numbers used the correct way )

[KopKaasDamp]

Here in Europe it is against the law what $ony wants, selling a product from second hand has got no restrictions from the fabricant.

[brunospfc]

get used "not to own" anything more people, now u rent, u licence, so you can pay forever! thats captalism in the 21th.

judges dont give a f...k about this, as long as politicians are getting they're money they dont do it also

and it doesnt matter what you think you're NOTHING!

microsoft release xbox knowing they had serious hardware problems

sony does whatever it wants with their users, never asking or looking around for what the consumer wants

whenever MONEY PLAYS, it never loses

[bigo93]

Originally Posted by KopKaasDamp Here in Europe it is against the law what $ony wants, selling a product from second hand has got no restrictions from the fabricant.

It's also against the law to steal from others; didnt stop $ony from stealing otheros without compensation. And they got away with it, hell a US court even found them innocent on it!

[luqi]

Originally Posted by KopKaasDamp Here in Europe it is against the law what $ony wants, selling a product from second hand has got no restrictions from the fabricant.

Money (Banks/Industry) rules the world my friend, its here in Europe (im from Germany) the same, like in the rest 90% of the world

Anyway im not a fanboy or a human which dont think with his own mind (thx god) , if Sony will go this way im out ... !
even some smart DEV crack this shxx

[tjhooker73]

Capitalism at its finest :S

[casefile101]

FIRST UP I THINK THIS MOVE FROM SONY REALLY SUCKS. But please continue reading, they cant help but be anally retarded.

Most (I say most because some of you have already seen it) of you need to see an old documentary movie called "The Corporation". Honestly watch it, then think of how Sony acts.
Facts to note:
1 - The Corporation is legally the equivalent of a person. Meaning it can be sued and can sue others
2 - The Shareholders & Upper management of the Corporation cannot be sued or prosecuted against anything the Corporation might do
3 - The Upper Management have the legal obligation to maximize Shareholder long term wealth

what this boils down to is upper management executives big corporations will make those decisions which go to make the shareholders richer. screw the environment, screw the customer (us) screw everyone, they are legally obliged to maximize the wealth of the owners of the corporation (lts illegal for them not to screw us for as long as possible). If this means killing people then fine they will, because they can say "Sony (or whatever corporation), killed the people, not us". So it is all done for the shareholders, so you might then think that the shareholders are liable (civil) or prosecutable (criminal) for the actions of their corporations. But this is where it gets really sick. They are not. The corporation being a legally alive entity like a person is responsible for the crimes it commits not anyone else. That follows the principle that you cannot be charged with murder if your son went and killed someone and fled the country. It doesn't matter your son killed that person for you.

I have said all that above to highlight that Sony does not give a flying f!@k what happens to us the customer, so long as they turn a profit... sorry not just turn a profit but MAXIMIZE their profits.

This legal nonsense is what governs corporations across the world.

The thing I believe that really pisses us off is why did Sony (our THEN friend, we would beat up Nintendo fans for) has turned from the gamers and developers choice console in the 1990s to this corporate money grabbing evil son of a one legged prostitute whore monster in the 2nd decade of the new millennium.

That comes from the understanding of the term "maximize LONG TERM wealth" As Sony grew in size and domination they assimilated (like the BORG ) business cultures from around the world. The long standing Japanese method of corporate life was and to a large extent still is jobs for life. You were educated joined a large corporation like Sony or Nintendo and you worked with them till you retired. They were like your family, they took care of you blah blah blah... you were part of a Gang which you couldn't leave. If you disgraced the gang, well then you were either taken out or you did the noble thing of taking your own life (I don't think its noble, but I am not one to judge someone else's culture). Why is this relevant? Well it leads to you being loyal to the company, the shareholders. And therefore when you acted to increase LONG TERM wealth it was with the understanding that you must not only woo new customers but also retain the old ones. you had to treat them right (Like Sony did back in the 1990's).

On the other side of the Pacific (The States) the mindset was and still is that "Jobs are NOT for life" its 'Ford' today 'GM' tomorrow. With that comes the attitude to show great jumps in wealth in the shorter term... in your term of employment. Employees do not care about the company they work for as much as say the Japanese do. So long as they show they increase profits drastically in the last quarter its all good.

I am not saying that the American way is not the correct way, but I am explaining that when Sony grew to be a large worldwide force. It really had to let in the international (American) way of upper management. Which is essentially more 'hunting' vs 'farming' your current livestock (money paying customers).

We all moan about Sony being this evil horrid being. Now you know why. They couldn't help it. It was inevitable. It is the way corporations are structures.

Now in this scenario the question is what can we (the customer) do? Well what we can do is seek out newer alternatives. If you remember Sony back in the early 90s was developing the Nintendo equivalent of Sega's Mega CD. Nintendo was a horrid corporate monster back in those days and had to grown to be in the same position Sony is in today. It had become become overly Americanized. Anyone 'John Conner' take the piss out of kids who played on their 'Nintendo' in a funny voice in Terminator 2. Penetrating the American market is no sin but a great achievement. Their mistake was letting the corporate culture of America dictate how that company was run. Nintendo used to bully its suppliers and extort its customers. 3rd party game developers were given little or no help to make games for Nintendo. Its was only when Sega's Mega CD flopped and Nintendo cancelled the near completion Nintendo Playstation made by Sony did a change happen. Sony complained to the head of the family of companies (Japan corporate culture is that large corporates work in families much like cartels) it and Nintendo belonged to that they were allowed to enter the gaming market in competition to Sony (SEGA were from a different family) Well what happened next is history, Sony entered and dominated the gaming market.

Nintendo today seems to be humbled and well to be honest they had the **** kicked out of them by Sony. They developers (Namco and Capcom especially) loved Sony, special teams were sent out to the developers to help them write for the Sony machine. SOny sold the black CDs to them so they could press the games and retail them themselves instead of having the game being distributed by sony like nintendo did. But now Sony has become Nintendo, while Nintendo because of competition has been humbled. We die hard fans of Sony have resisted Microsofts advances. Even though those who converted claim they would never turn back to Sony. Well if MS policies continue to be not so anti consumer then we should go for the 720. If they match Sony toe to toe in stupidity when it comes to customer and developer relations I would say lets all just boycott the next gen. I mean our current gen games are still very very good in terms of graphics and game play. And the next gen might be a hell of a lot more powerful but would we really noticing the difference that much... OK some people maintain we will, the question is would it be worth the cost. We all have to do a Cost-Benefit analysis for ourselves that can we abstain from the next gen. I certainly might.

Sorry this post kind of turned into an article

[TheBuzzer]

This is bad because of :
your system breaks, you buy a new one. you have to rebuy all the games.
you see a new model of the system you buy the new model, you have to rebuy all the games.

There are so many ways to break the system like bad firmware flash, electrical surge, part of the system dies, etc.

[Annelies]

Maybe you guys really should be supporting the devs if you like their games by buying them NEW anyways.

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