[marty370]

I don't why you think it would be bad, when PC market does it now.

Devs also produce games to the best specs possible then scale back in order to remain compatible.

If consoles had this same approach, launch price could be kept low, as the console makers would recoup ther cost over the life cycle of the console(with ram upgrades after 4-5 years).

[japsander]

if you think that would keep the price low at launch you are a fool
if you do not see how this idea is open to abuse, the same applies
why offer an upgrade when they can sell a brand new console with a little added functionality

xbox released original 360 > 4gb fats > slims with built in wifi
nintendo release upgraded ds models all the time
sony are the ones who give nothing extra in new models but take more away, i.e. pspgo / non BC ps3's

sony do not entertain the idea of keeping prices down or saving customers money
give them the option to upgrade and they WILL downgrade specs (cripple) before launch

[marty370]

Originally Posted by japsander if you think that would keep the price low at launch you are a fool if you do not see how this idea is open to abuse, the same applies why offer an upgrade when they can sell a brand new console with a little added functionality xbox released original 360 > 4gb fats > slims with built in wifi nintendo release upgraded ds models all the time sony are the ones who give nothing extra in new models but take more away, i.e. pspgo / non BC ps3's sony do not entertain the idea of keeping prices down or saving customers money give them the option to upgrade and they WILL downgrade specs (cripple) before launch

Funny SONY gives NOTHING, you kidding Right.

They gave:

Blu-ray, hard drive, Bluetooth 2.0 rechargable controllers, Wi-fi, HDMI 1.3, 1gig Ethernet, free online gaming all as standard.

Sony including the above saved me a packet on:

Hard drive upgrades (uses standard cheap drives I can Change myself, not expensive optional extra).

Blu-ray Drive(not expensive optional extra)

Rechargables controllers(no need for expensive charge cables & batteries)

Wi-Fi(no need for optional extras)

Free online gaming(no expensive fees to play online)

[japsander]

Originally Posted by marty370 Funny SONY gives NOTHING, you kidding Right. They gave: Blu-ray, hard drive, Bluetooth 2.0 rechargable controllers, Wi-fi, HDMI 1.3, 1gig Ethernet, free online gaming all as standard. Sony including the above saved me a packet on: Hard drive upgrades (uses standard cheap drives I can Change myself, not expensive optional extra). Blu-ray Drive(not expensive optional extra) Rechargables controllers(no need for expensive charge cables & batteries) Wi-Fi(no need for optional extras) Free online gaming(no expensive fees to play online)

you misread me.

those were there at launch. they didnt give them to you. you paid for them at launch. later models had either the same or less functionality

on sku updates, did they "give" or "take" functionality. other consoles usually improve experiences, sony do not
upgrade psp > pspgo (lose UMD and rebuy games)
upgrade from launch ps3 (lose BC and rebuy ps2 games)

so as i was saying, why would they "give" you the option of saving money?

honestly, its cool that you are committed to sony but don't be blind lol, thats how you are perceived to be a fanboy

i am a realist. i love my psp/pspgo/ps3/psvita but i recognize the reality of the company behind them and their lackluster commitment to their customers. i also recognize the merits of other companies as well as their failings, something im afraid you seem unable to be able do

edit. expensive online fees? £28 for a year for a far superior service?

[marty370]

Originally Posted by japsander you misread me. those were there at launch. they didnt give them to you. you paid for them at launch. later models had either the same or less functionality on sku updates, did they "give" or "take" functionality. other consoles usually improve experiences, sony do not upgrade psp > pspgo (lose UMD and rebuy games) upgrade from launch ps3 (lose BC and rebuy ps2 games) so as i was saying, why would they "give" you the option of saving money? honestly, its cool that you are committed to sony but don't be blind lol, thats how you are perceived to be a fanboy i am a realist. i love my psp/pspgo/ps3/psvita but i recognize the reality of the company behind them and their lackluster commitment to their customers. i also recognize the merits of other companies as well as their failings, something im afraid you seem unable to be able do edit. expensive online fees? £28 for a year for a far superior service?

Sorry to say but my point was all that I LISTED was STANDARD accros ALL MODELS. So SONY did GIVE something, VALUE.

As for Xlive it's a RIP OFF, you should never have to PAY, too ONLINE GAME.

And Xlive be better is debateable.

[Firebuble]

Originally Posted by marty370 Sorry to say but my point was all that I LISTED was STANDARD accros ALL MODELS. So SONY did GIVE something

they dont give you nothing, you bought it with that features (maybe if there wasn't, you didn't buy it) and comparing features in a time line you will see how the features decrease across the years

[Inali]

He still doesn't understand the point that newer PS3's have less and less features. What does my Launch day 60GB PS3 have that the brand new super slims dont? Lets see...

• Linux
• Playstation 2 games
• 4 USB ports
• SuperAudio CD support (yes, I DO have some)
• memory card reader (I use it to back up game saves!)
• A *****in' chrome finish
• A *way* sexier design

What does the slim or super slim have that mine doesnt?

• Bitstreaming

Damn. What a nice tradeoff... *rolls eyes*

[fudfast]

Originally Posted by Inali He still doesn't understand the point that newer PS3's have less and less features. What does my Launch day 60GB PS3 have that the brand new super slims dont? Lets see... Linux Playstation 2 games 4 USB ports SuperAudio CD support (yes, I DO have some) memory card reader (I use it to back up game saves!) A *****in' chrome finish A *way* sexier design What does the slim or super slim have that mine doesnt? Bitstreaming Damn. What a nice tradeoff... *rolls eyes*

yeah.. don't forget the "more prone to ylod" thingy on that model.