[WiiUHaX]

Here is Wii U + USB Gecko

Abusing a USB gecko to debug Wii U stuff.
Check out the USB Gecko, soldered to Wii U motherboard!!
This is How we Get Stuff Started with the WiiU..Lets Hack this System….
Source
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[DEFAULTDNB]

This is awesome. Progress will be made!

Funny I mentioned the possibility of doing this with a gecko 4 days ago :P

http://www.ps3hax.net/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=10

[Wolfterro]

I know it's too soon for anything like that but, has anyone seen any WiiU game rips? Does anyone know if there's some kind of protection on the discs?

[varaques]

Originally Posted by Wolfterro I know it's too soon for anything like that but, has anyone seen any WiiU game rips? Does anyone know if there's some kind of protection on the discs?

the disk are protected that i know

[Wolfterro]

Yeah, AFAIK they use some kind of obfuscation and BCA marks, but must have something different from the Wii and Gamecube discs, that's I want to know...

[DEFAULTDNB]

Originally Posted by Wolfterro Yeah, AFAIK they use some kind of obfuscation and BCA marks, but must have something different from the Wii and Gamecube discs, that's I want to know...

Found this info:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/n...prietary-disc/
Now I'm not sure if its to do with some sort of never-before-seen-proprietary-rounded-edge-security, or just a detail... seems a bit odd to me.

and these:

So the Wii U disk has a black layer that is copy protected. What I think this means(and I could be wrong so this is a guess) is that if people are looking forward to emulate Wii U games on the PC will be s*** out of luck.

the disc is bluray-based tech, but doesnt use the bluray codec because nintendo doesnt want to pay the licencing fee. but is has the same capacity as a bluray disc and the laser is similar.

*not sure about "codec" in that quote, more like license?

It uses a blue laser, it is see through just like blu-ray and has the same scratch resistant coating... It is blu-ray.

Wikipedia just points to BCA as you mentioned before..

Has anyone tried putting a WiiU disc in a BD reader in their PC or laptop, or maybe even tried reading it through MMOS on their PS3??

I want to know more about the format too.

[Wolfterro]

I think the rounded edge is just a detail, as far as I can tell, it doesn't make any difference in copy protection.

And I think that "codec" is another way (software way) to read the disc files, probably another File System or somethink like that?

But I think it must contain another obfuscation (defected positions again?), Nintendo loves that. Or maybe they grow tired and now they use another feature. Probably that unknown black layer...

[DEFAULTDNB]

The weirdest thing happens if you put your WiiU disc into your PS3 while in MM 04.18.00 (trying to look at disc through MMOS):

The disc goes in, comes half out, goes back in, gets spat out and the MM screen pops up with what looks like it should have an error message but the screen is blank except for the 2 "border" lines top and bottom of a typical PS3 loading screen/error message screen.

Oh well it was worth a shot, and it can be confirmed that it doesn't work ticked off the list of things to try with a WiiU disc

[Wolfterro]

Yeah, I have imagined that wouldn't work, but thanks for try.

The way to read the disc must be completely different, something new maybe, that only the Wii U console can read the disc.

I think there will be necessary a BD Drive with modified firmware to rip those discs, maybe even a Wii U drive with modified firmware (similar to the Xbox 360 drives with 0800 firmwares). Time will tell...

[DEFAULTDNB]

More interesting conjecture on WiiU discs:

Is it possible to read WiiU disc using regular Blu-ray drive? No. Is it possible to read WiiU disc using Blu-ray drive with heavy customized firmware? I believe yes, but requires lots of time and effort. Is it possible to read WiiU disc using WiiU? Yes, quite easy. But first we need exploit for WiiU mode.

technically, Wii U game dumps *could* possibly be made from WiiMode as AHBPROT Wii Homebrew has direct hardware access to the Disk Drive. another problem would be adding support for the drive commands needed to read Wii U disks and a program to actually dump the game. that does not even include needing the common key to decrypt the dump. i am assuming the drive does not have a special firmware that disables reading Wii U disks when the console is in WiiMode. its unlikely but possible to have the drive itself disable reading Wii U games as part of the reboot into WiiMode.

25GB capacity per layer points to a modified Blu-ray standard (like how the Wii discs were modified DVD), all I can find is that it's a format from Panasonic.

I know WiiXplorer can browse a Wii or GC disc on a normal Wii. You could use that to see if it has access to the DRIVE from Wii homebrew with a Wii disk. I'd assume the disks themselves would use a different encryption scheme, though, so actually browsing the content might not work but if you MIGHT be able to get enough access to rip an image.

Crediar on WiiU game saves:

Only problem is that you can't copy WiiU game save files to SD.

Even IF you can copy them to USB, the WiiU formats it in a custom per console encrypted FS.