[rika85]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax Well, you have to make sure beforehand which PS3 you are buying and that it can be downgraded for sure. That is absolutely crucial. You can find out which consoles can be downgraded by visiting the PS3DevWiki website. To pay someone else to do it for you, of course. You need to visit PS3DevWiki website, and navigate to the Teensy2.0++ wiki page. There it lists all of the required items you will need. I would advise pay for a downgrade service then. Because they will use a clip they are sure works. If you buy your own clip, it can be expensive, and it might not work. For a similar price to a clip, you might pay someone else to downgrade you. I live in Europe too. You can buy the Teensy2.0++ directly from PJRC in USA. They will charge you $8 for international airmail shipping to your country. But don't forget to add to your order their $1 voltage regulator! (it's NOT included automatically!!). As for E3: its far more expensive than Teensy2.0++. Therefore, for personal uses I don't recommend to anyone the E3 flasher. E3 / Progskeet / NOR clips make more sense when used for providing downgrade service instead. You need to find out for yourself from the tables on PS3DevWiki website. Yes. But don't remember who it was. No. Absolutely not. A jailbreak is an exploit. And the USB exploit (PSGrade) has been closed since 3.60. We only have the 3.55 private keys. So we can do is decrypt any future OFWs with LV0 first, then modify those into CFW, and can simply re-sign it as 3.55. SO as long as your console is already on some 3.55 based furmwares, all is fine. No. Unless some new hack or exploit is proven. None are know about yet. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* It sounds like you completely buggered it. If I were in your shoes, I'd think seriously about calling it a day, calling it quits. Stop and put everything back together, and don't downgrade it. In other words: why not be happy with staying on OFW? That's not really such a bad choice compared to almost certainly destroying your PS3 until its beyond all repair. Surely? Maybe, at least you learned some important lessons? Such as: * Did you use FLUX (grease) to cover the PCB before you were soldering? * How did you manage break the PCB trace when it is covered by a protective silk screen? Did you apply too much heat and leave the soldering iron resting on the PCB for too long? (generously using FLUX protects against this). Or was it because you used lead-free solder? (which is higher temperature than lead based solder). * Did you use a 15-20 W soldering iron with a FINE tip? * Do you have lots of money to throw away, breaking your PS3 for no good reason? * Do you think you actually know what you did wrong? Have you learned enough to avoid doing this same mistake(s) again in the future?

Well I was not expecting such words from anyone, but as a courtesy to you I'll answer some of your questions, first I have downgraded other ps3's before this is not my first doing it. I did not the leave the soldering iron on and I know how to solder. I did apply Flux and removed the the protective cover so I can solder the wire from somewhere else. After breaking both parts Tristate and sbe, I managed to successfully solder the parts and put it back working. So please if you are not aware of whats going on, do not take people like fools.
Anyway My question was for baileyscream not anyone else. Thanks for the reply anyway.

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax Well, you have to make sure beforehand which PS3 you are buying and that it can be downgraded for sure. That is absolutely crucial. You can find out which consoles can be downgraded by visiting the PS3DevWiki website. To pay someone else to do it for you, of course. You need to visit PS3DevWiki website, and navigate to the Teensy2.0++ wiki page. There it lists all of the required items you will need. its only my guide that will show you and even mentions that the TEENSY++ can be used with the nor clip. so the wiki doesnt tell you everything. you have to fill in the blanks I would advise pay for a downgrade service then. Because they will use a clip they are sure works. If you buy your own clip, it can be expensive, and it might not work. For a similar price to a clip, you might pay someone else to downgrade you. I live in Europe too. You can buy the Teensy2.0++ directly from PJRC in USA. They will charge you $8 for international airmail shipping to your country. But don't forget to add to your order their $1 voltage regulator! (it's NOT included automatically!!). i went through all this with judges we tested and tested and finaly it it became obvious that it doesnt matter about the volt reg. if you want it on then fine you can power the nor this way but you cannot use the TEENSY++ as a fsm this way on all boards. if you dont use the volt reg then simply power the nor by turning on the ps3 then this works on all boards also you can use the TEENSY++ as a fsm on all boards this way also As for E3: its far more expensive than Teensy2.0++. Therefore, for personal uses I don't recommend to anyone the E3 flasher. E3 / Progskeet / NOR clips make more sense when used for providing downgrade service instead. You need to find out for yourself from the tables on PS3DevWiki website. Yes. But don't remember who it was. No. Absolutely not. A jailbreak is an exploit. And the USB exploit (PSGrade) has been closed since 3.60. We only have the 3.55 private keys. So we can do is decrypt any future OFWs with LV0 first, then modify those into CFW, and can simply re-sign it as 3.55. SO as long as your console is already on some 3.55 based furmwares, all is fine. you dont need a min firmware of 3.55 anymore if you have a 3.60 min firmware then you can downgrade to rogero4.30v2 what matters is the mtldr version. if you have mtldr1 then you can downgrade direct to rogero4.30v2 if you have mtldr2 then you cannot. No. Unless some new hack or exploit is proven. None are know about yet. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* It sounds like you completely buggered it. If I were in your shoes, I'd think seriously about calling it a day, calling it quits. Stop and put everything back together, and don't downgrade it. Why not just be happy with staying on OFW. That's not really such a bad choice compared to almost certainly destroying your PS3. erm this is the reason ppl are in my thread. to downgrade. You can easily improve your soldering skills by asking yourself questions like this: * Did you use plenty of FLUX (grease) to cover this area of the PCB before you began soldering? * How did you manage break the PCB trace when it is covered by a protective silk screen? Applied too much heat and leave the soldering iron resting on the PCB for too long? (of course, generously using FLUX does protect against this). Or perhaps it was the wrong type of solder? Lead-free solder has a higher melting temperature than lead-based solder. * Did you use a 15-20 W soldering iron with a FINE tip? Using a more powerful soldering iron with a larger tip here is a very bad idea. * Do you now actually know for certain what you did wrong? Are you confident that you have learned enough to avoid doing those same mistake(s) again?

did you not read any of his posts?
no
then can i carry on helping him?

please dont try throwing your weight around in my thread.

the thread is here to help ppl not to use to talk down to ppl.

come back when you remember that you were once in there shoes and needed help not criticism!

[afzoo3hax]

Originally Posted by rika85 After breaking both parts Tristate and sbe, I managed to successfully solder the parts and put it back working. So please if you are not aware of whats going on, do not take people like fools. Anyway My question was for baileyscream not anyone else. Thanks for the reply anyway.

If you have lifted that tristate test pad, then it is not feasable for most people to continue. If you purposefully broke through the shield on the mobo, to get access to the trace. Well, you can do it if you want. But it (the trace) is so small you cannot seriously expect to attach some wire or external attachment to hold or grip with any mechanical force whatsoever. That is just asking for more problems. Sorry to be the person to be saying that. But it's the truth.

Okay maybe there is one thing you can try:

Conductive paint (like a little pot of silver paint). Or "Conductive Pen" (a Silver Marker). Expose the trace carefully (although it sounds like it is already exposed now) and paint over it. Then from the painted area you created, you can stick down something bigger like a conductive aluminum tape. Then solder onto THAT. I would not usually recommend such things because it's still very difficult to do. You still have to make sure you don't short onto any other exposed pads or vias.

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax Then you should send the guy a PM and not post on public forums for just anyone to answer. Also: it's not actually my responsibility to be the one to explain your situation to others. So if I don't know what's going on that's entirely YOUR fault, not mine. But it certainly IS foolish to try continue downgrading a console after breaking traces / lifting the tristate pad etc. That is just asking for more skrewup. I do think you are asking the wrong question really. You are asking for good alternative places to solder for the tristate / SBE. Instead, it's a much better thing to ask yourself this alternative question: Why would Sony put more than exactly 1x test-pad when designing their PS3 motherboards? They are at the factory, they design the jig / flasher device. It only needs one pad. So that's all they need to put on their PCBs. So then you're left looking for where else the SBE connects to. Right? Well that's probably going to be the BGA package of the CELL processor and not much else. And on a modern multi-layer (eg 4-layer) PCB there may be very limited access. If you have lifted that tristate test pad, then it's not feasable for most "normal" people to continue a downgrade. If you want to go ahead and explain that you purposefully broke through the shield on the mobo, to get access to the trace. Well, you can do it if you want. But it (the trace) is so small you cannot seriously expect to attach some wire or external attachment to hold or grip with any mechanical force whatsoever. That is just asking for more problems. Sorry to be the person to be saying that. But it's the truth.

read his posts!!!
he has allready fixed the tristate point.

there right there in this thread.

and yes there are plenty of alternative points to solder the tristate

i'm getting tired of this allready!!

STOP TALKING DOWN TO PEOPLE IN MY THREAD!!!

[afzoo3hax]

It doesn't really matter.

"Now I ched the soldering and noticed that were I traced the sbe was also broken. Now I was wondering is there an alternative point for SBE? I read that I would need to groung tristate, how can I do that if its an alternative to connecting to SBE? Please help."

Right... so according to that it's now a broken trace for SBE and not at the Tristate pad. And THIS advice is still applicable.

"Conductive paint (like a little pot of silver paint). Or "Conductive Pen" (a Silver Marker). Expose the trace carefully (although it sounds like it is already exposed now) and paint over it. Then from the painted area you created, you can stick down something bigger like a conductive aluminum tape. Then solder onto THAT. I would not usually recommend such things because it's still very difficult to do. You still have to make sure you don't short onto any other exposed pads or vias."

He can try to attach a wire from the broken SBE track and then solder it back onto the Tristate.

Also: I don't really talk down to people as much if you quote my finally edited posts, rather than the original ones!

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax It doesn't really matter. "Now I ched the soldering and noticed that were I traced the sbe was also broken. Now I was wondering is there an alternative point for SBE? I read that I would need to groung tristate, how can I do that if its an alternative to connecting to SBE? Please help." Right... so according to that it's now a broken trace for SBE and not at the Tristate pad. And THIS advice is still applicable. "Conductive paint (like a little pot of silver paint). Or "Conductive Pen" (a Silver Marker). Expose the trace carefully (although it sounds like it is already exposed now) and paint over it. Then from the painted area you created, you can stick down something bigger like a conductive aluminum tape. Then solder onto THAT. I would not usually recommend such things because it's still very difficult to do. You still have to make sure you don't short onto any other exposed pads or vias." He can try to attach a wire from the broken SBE track and then solder it back onto the Tristate. Also: I don't really talk down to people as much if you quote my finally edited posts, rather than the original ones!

ok so you dont know what sbe is then?
its SouthBridge Earth
the tristate when set to earth turns off the southbridge
no southbridge = no boot
so put tristate to gnd

and why quote your edited posts?
you should not have put what you did in the first place.

this is a thread
threads are for helping not bashing

i will not risk having users to worried to post a question in here no matter how silly it may sound or confusing to others just for the sake of one person and how he talks.

there are good users on hax that will always have time to help others that come into this thread.

if you do not wish to help ppl then go elsewhere.

its MY name on the door to this thread and MY rules in the main post that are an addon to the site rules.

read the site rules then read my thread rules.

dont like them then stay out.

[tarizo312]

Just got my PS3 back. A special shout out to everyone who helped especially playerkp420 for all of his hard work after I soft bricked the damn thing. I do have a few questions now. Is it safe to do a PS3 to PS3 transfer and can I play Black Ops II online multiplayer on Rogero 4.30 v2.03? Thanks in advance for your answer.

[zapptheman]

Originally Posted by MJ999 Try to use Hard foams. Did you sand the edges of the clip ?

no i didn't sand the edges why would i have to? maybe its a problem with my flasher

[Dartban214]

Originally Posted by zapptheman no i didn't sand the edges why would i have to? maybe its a problem with my flasher

if you sand the edges it may fit more snug. You may have to tape it down because if it is loose at all you'll get bad dumps.

Another alternative to using the clip is soldering the E3 linker. Soldering the linker isn't hard just annoying because of all the wires

[minibike12]

@baileyscream &others

Thanks for the info.
I've indeed read that 3.55 is not needed anymore, good news.

So i should be able to get a new ps3 slim CECH 25xx or CECH 30xx and still downgrade it to CFW?
Anyhow, is it possible to see if a PS3 slim 160GB has mtldr1 or mtldr2 before buying it?

Hmm only CECH 3004A models.
Not possible i guess?