[enosrasun]

my dog ,ask me if I can get one of this ODE crap to piss on it!!!

this ODE wont work with out the drive key on any ps3

you can get that key from ps3 that are 3.55 or bellow

I think I will let my dog to piss on this crap..he is smarter than some humans

[Rob1980]

Works with any current Sony OFW and third party CFW's

Until Sony detect it, like microsoft did with hardware mods, and perma ban again, no mention of being future proof with future OFW updates..

No different to cfw as far as I can see..

Whats the difference between this and that E3key thingy thats supposed to be rolling out soon?

[Hannibal1471]

You would need the private keys, and the private keys only to make a cfw working.

An other option is an exploit, but that's not an easy option as it's very difficult to find an exploit.

@Isleofdoom

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Originally Posted by Rob1980 Until Sony detect it, like microsoft did with hardware mods, and perma ban again, no mention of being future proof with future OFW updates.. No different to cfw as far as I can see.. Whats the difference between this and that E3key thingy thats supposed to be rolling out soon?

Who is to say whether Sony will come up with something detectable. It probably is if Sony can upgrade bluray drive firmware.

However it's likely that the detection can be circumvented, so as long as you check to make sure it's safe before you upgrade then you'll be fine. They are likely to keep wanting to sell them, so they'll produce updates. For CFW we could have another long gap if Sony aggressively try to protect their firmware again.

It probably is very similar to the E3key one in concept and it'll just be a race to whoever can fill in the details first of the most wanted features. I imagine that they've both had it working using drive keys obtained using CFW for a while.

[ginnza]

This would have been awesome news a year ago but now it's just meh

[psg]

Only reason this would be any interesting, is if they somehow managed to extract the drive key without you being on a custom firmware first. A hardware solution that is the ODE, for instance. That way even people on non-jailbroken/non-downgradable consoles could play "backups". And let's not fool ourselves, that is what the vast majority of people on jailbroken PS3s cares about. Hell, even homebrew developers on this forum take screenshots of them using "backups" from torrent directories to test things.

I don't see many people, already on CFW/DEX consoles, willing to shell out money for this. Those can always play the newest games as it is, and have homebrew without the need to jump through hoops. What good does that do them? Oh, being able to be on OFW. Granted, that's nice. But how long will that last, though? Are we sure Sony cannot push out a firmware update and put an end to this, and simultaneously console ban you as well, as an added bonus? Then what? You are stuck on OFW, unless you hardware downgrade again.

I fail to see the point of this. If anything, if you think about buying this for some stupid reason (unless 3k/4k models can be done out of the box, ODE only), wait a few months, 3-4, I would say, to see how it develops. Whether Sony can/has already banned it, or if it's good to go for the long run.

And as far as the infantile bashing of the device goes: It's a hardware based solution. Not a re-drm device. More Flasher than dongle. What do you want them to do? Let you download the hardware? Even if they were to tell you exactly how it's done, all it would do is make other companies produce clone devices. Those still would cost money, and, by those companies shaving off costs, and bringing you a less reliable hardware, save you a few bucks. Or you would have to build one yourself, which would end up costing the same. Or even more, if you were to include the man hours building the device.

If it's the principle, well... welcome to the real world, where people have to pay bills. Sorry if you don't have a skillset that makes you rake in more money with less work.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by psg And as far as the infantile bashing of the device goes: It's a hardware based solution. Not a re-drm device. More Flasher than dongle. What do you want them to do? Let you download the hardware? Even if they were to tell you exactly how it's done, all it would do is make other companies produce clone devices. Those still would cost money, and, by those companies shaving off costs, and bringing you a less reliable hardware, save you a few bucks. Or you would have to build one yourself, which would end up costing the same. Or even more, if you were to include the man hours building the device.

What is infantile, is the inability to understand that this hardware is not needed, everything can be done via CFW, no hardware needed, this is just for the lazy and those that don't understand how to install a CFW.

[psg]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin What is infantile, is the inability to understand that this hardware is not needed, everything can be done via CFW, no hardware needed, this is just for the lazy and those that don't understand how to install a CFW.

So, through CFW, you can play backups on OFW?

How?

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by psg So, through CFW, you can play backups on OFW? How?

Don't be analy pedantic
You can play backups/pirates homebrew and PSN all on the latest MFW.

You also need to be on CFW to get this Chode working in the first place....

[psg]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Don't be analy pedantic You can play backups/pirates homebrew and PSN all on the latest MFW. You also need to be on CFW to get this Chode working in the first place....

I am not "anally pedantic". You made a claim, that this device is not needed, for what it sets out to do. That simply isn't true. The device has a use, that can only be achieved through hardware. And that is regardless of how utterly useless it actually might be, for what, at this time, it is able to achieve, compared to free solutions.

However, we both agree, that this is not enough. I even called it pointless myself. I went as far as to say, that nobody on a jailbroken PS3 would want to buy it.

I am just being fair, and don't enjoy seeing a witch hunt, I guess.