[haz367]

Originally Posted by donkey-punch Because it is signed with private key. Private being the operative word. Sony's private key is protected by an ecdsa signature. It is the most dominant key so to speak. If the ecdsa signed private key says the pup is good to go then the console will swallow the information provided. The priv that was generated by failoverflow is listed as fake so to speak (or generated) therefore visible to Sony security and black listed. I'm half drunk now and could be wrong but pretty sure I'm not.

even when ur drunk, the way u explain it in layman terms..love it...hats of to u..keep drinking
:beer:

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by mckenziesdaddy Yes, Sony moved LV0 behind a wall. Which at the moment no one can get too. It would take another fail on Sony's part, But at this point in the scene I do not see that happening. Best guess from me, As sad as this is to point out. A solution will come for the 3K and 4K units and you will have to pay for it.

You are very wrong here. Sony has not moved anything. LV0 is not changable (although some say it is)
What we have is the Bootldr keys, So we can get the lv0 keys and much more, But not lv0.2 this is were sony got smart.
Even if we got the lv0.2 Public keys like we got bootldr/lv0 pub keys, We still couldn't do anything due to the fact 3k and 4k cannot use 3.55 or below.
We still need private keys. We could flash 4.xx cfw though with the lv0.2 keys now that i think about it.

[arwynj55]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 You are very wrong here. Sony has not moved anything. LV0 is not changable (although some say it is) What we have is the Bootldr keys, So we can get the lv0 keys and much more, But not lv0.2 this is were sony got smart. Even if we got the lv0.2 Public keys like we got bootldr/lv0 pub keys, We still couldn't do anything due to the fact 3k and 4k cannot use 3.55 or below. We still need private keys. We could flash 4.xx cfw though with the lv0.2 keys now that i think about it.

that made more sence thanks! so how will one get the lvo.2 keys ? out of curiosity

[Dartban214]

Originally Posted by FaxiY hmm okay i somehow understand a bit how ECDSA works http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2012/0...gorithm-works/ to guess the private key isnt possible because it has 49 digits :D

LOL guessing the private key IS possible but highly unlikely you mean. I mean your chances of a correct answer are like the chances of winning the loto. Actually if I'm correct the odds of you getting the correct answer is 18,983,603,961 to 1.

You'd have to get all 49 digits correct out of MANY MANY MANY others. Youd have to go through the line of each and every guess to find if it was correct and for every faluire you do it'd be around a million years on a good computer to do this. And IF your lucky it'd be simple number lol. And that's not including if it has letters and characters.


The formula to "Guess" the correct answer is possible but so unlikely it's not even worth the try. What I'm thinking though is if we could (in some way) install a RAT and watch what the PS3 does. If we can find the formula it does we should (In my theory) be able to guess what it searches for exactly. And even then it could use a random number out of all the 49 digits everytime it searches. And even then that's a MAYBE if it goes through each 49. It could go through the first 10 etc. But we have no certianity. And even then on topofthat the updates that are newer may have programmed the PS3's keys to change CONSTANTLY. So not every ps3's keys are the same and they are never stagnant. Best bet is to just say screw it unless your a gang shot programmer and don't have a life lmao.


I agree though the person who finds those keys isn't going to just give them up. He'll have you pay to get CFW. And if I were him I'd charge a good penny lol

[jarmster]

I get that we cant use 3.55 and below keysets but what about resigning a cfw with custom private/public keyset not on blacklist. Why doesnt that work? Likly a simple answer, i just dont know it and i am curious.

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by arwynj55 that made more sence thanks! so how will one get the lvo.2 keys ? out of curiosity

Dumping and bruteforcing the key would be the only logical way, But could take many many many years.
Or finding it in memory as it is being used could be another way but is very expencive and time consuming. (I think math had a way of doing this but would not give out anything)
Decapping special Key holding Devices on real Dex PS3's was another way if I remember seeing it on the wiki, someone conned the scene out of several thousands of dollars for one of these PS3's and ran off with it and helped make true blue as some people will say.
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Originally Posted by jarmster I get that we cant use 3.55 and below keysets but what about resigning a cfw with custom private/public keyset not on blacklist. Why doesnt that work? Likly a simple answer, i just dont know it and i am curious.

The PS3 will only update with the current keyset and above i think, so we cannot just use keysets that are old and incomplete.
Plus we cannot just use a made up keyset.
We will still need to get a private keyset, we can not generate them anymore.

[arwynj55]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 Dumping and bruteforcing the key would be the only logical way, But could take many many many years. Or finding it in memory as it is being used could be another way but is very expencive and time consuming. (I think math had a way of doing this but would not give out anything) Decapping special Key holding Devices on real Dex PS3's was another way if I remember seeing it on the wiki, someone conned the scene out of several thousands of dollars for one of these PS3's and ran off with it and helped make true blue as some people will say. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* The PS3 will only update with the current keyset and above i think, so we cannot just use keysets that are old and incomplete. Plus we cannot just use a made up keyset. We will still need to get a private keyset, we can not generate them anymore.

that was a good idea about the RAT o.O I mean it could work and it could not work O.O but it wouldn't kill anyone to give it a go xD

[Dartban214]

Originally Posted by arwynj55 that was a good idea about the RAT o.O I mean it could work and it could not work O.O but it wouldn't kill anyone to give it a go xD

Rats show what's on screen. It's a remote administrator tool. I've never worked with them(HELL why would I) But the best thing to do is get it so the ps3 shows you what it does (Basically the idea). I'm not one to ask for this lmao. I'm good at programming not the best.

My other idea I had a little bit ago was when my hard drive got corrupted. It said I needed to re-install the OFW on the safe mode screen. (Which I did of course) but it checked it to make sure the update was a correct update then it went to another screen to do said update. What if instead of doing the update we switched out the USB's with another USB with CFW on it? What would it do? Does it constantly check to see if the USB has been unplugged? and if it does could we work around that?

[arwynj55]

Originally Posted by Dartban214 Rats show what's on screen. It's a remote administrator tool. I've never worked with them(HELL why would I) But the best thing to do is get it so the ps3 shows you what it does (Basically the idea). I'm not one to ask for this lmao. I'm good at programming not the best. My other idea I had a little bit ago was when my hard drive got corrupted. It said I needed to re-install the OFW on the safe mode screen. (Which I did of course) but it checked it to make sure the update was a correct update then it went to another screen to do said update. What if instead of doing the update we switched out the USB's with another USB with CFW on it? What would it do? Does it constantly check to see if the USB has been unplugged? and if it does could we work around that?

true ( ithink) at least doing so would be better than just sitting in front the ps3 and stare at it untill it tells you the private key :P

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by arwynj55 true ( ithink) at least doing so would be better than just sitting in front the ps3 and stare at it untill it tells you the private key :P

If we could do a constant dump of the PS3 Memory and processes while its starting up I think we could get a key or 2 :P