[SublimESmoker420]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 Did you go online with it while on CFW cause that is a reason they would ban you.

Yeah dude, offline SUCKS. It's soo goddamn boring man... I was spoofed to 4.31 Hundreds of people online with their CFW, not getting banned... This is soo gay...

[tjhooker73]

Originally Posted by SublimESmoker420 Yeah dude, offline SUCKS. It's soo goddamn boring man... I was spoofed to 4.31 Hundreds of people online with their CFW, not getting banned... This is soo gay...

They eventually get banned or are dual booting.

[SublimESmoker420]

Originally Posted by tjhooker73 They eventually get banned or are dual booting.

Yeah... I don't know why Sony doesn't just let people do what they do, I mean, they bought it with their money...

Sony has their reasons I suppose... It's great to know Treyarch is able to view your ps3 files & stuff, and send a report to Sony, then ban you without notice...

I think that's sneaky and dumb... I was playing legit, without mods... I play games legitamentally without modding... The only games I mod are GTA4, and Mw2... I spawn cars for people in GTA, and make it to were people run fast and jump high on Mw2...

[afzoo3hax]

Originally Posted by jamesst20 - NEVER use modded EBOOT! Do not mod any game if you're gonna play online! No cheat, no fix etc.. If you must use a patched eboot to be able to run the game, don't go online ... Be aware that Multiman(Non Stealth) and other managers, can be detected by Sony because they are in /game/. ... Following this will make you most likely safe from ban and you will still be able to play backups and all, even Black Ops 2 Online

Originally Posted by Theeze App home may get a different title id and title name but your trophy list will say otherwise. Basically your ps3 will look like ofw without homebrew? Well consider the different directories cfw adds to hdd0...it makes stealth useless doesn't it?

This is great discussion guys! I thank you both for all of these useful comments.

Theese: I think jamesst only meant that you possibly can play BO2 online, but only ever from a straight backup of the original game disk, not the pirated version which has a modified EBOOT ? I don't know this for sure, I am asking for jamesst to clarify the point.

Jamesst: Is there some simple way I can check for all other games to be sure that the EBOOT was not modified, for example if I am downloading DUPLEX games and other torrented PS3 games? Perhaps a ps3-homebew tool exist for windows that queries a database of EBOOTS? I don't know anything about this. For comparing an EBOOT checksum etc ???. That seems very useful.

Theese: Trophies. I was under the impression from the MM Stealth Release notes that the Stealth version will not show on the trophies screen. Perhaps I was wrong about that particular assumption of mine?

Another point: I do agree what you are saying Theese is correct that the CFW filesystem will always be different in some detectable way. Yet it is only a problem if the OFW code / PSN server queries return that specific filesys data back to Sony servers in the communication session.

My PS3 is still broken right now. But I have been planning to take TCP dumps with Wireshark, to compare exactly the data packets send back to Sony. Ie TCP dumps comparing both the 4.30 OFW, and 4.30 Rogero CFW v2.05. This seems like the only way to avoid any uncertainty... otherwise we are all just guessing and speculating if that really matters or not regarding Sony's current CFW detection / ban risk. Of course, knowing our luck Sony might decided to release a brand new OFW anytime soon.

[jamesst20]

Originally Posted by afzoo3hax This is great discussion guys! I thank you both for all of these useful comments. Theese: I think jamesst only meant that you possibly can play BO2 online, but only ever from a straight backup of the original game disk, not the pirated version which has a modified EBOOT ? I don't know this for sure, I am asking for jamesst to clarify the point. Jamesst: Is there some simple way I can check for all other games to be sure that the EBOOT was not modified, for example if I am downloading DUPLEX games and other torrented PS3 games? Perhaps a ps3-homebew tool exist for windows that queries a database of EBOOTS? I don't know anything about this. For comparing an EBOOT checksum etc ???. That seems very useful. Theese: Trophies. I was under the impression from the MM Stealth Release notes that the Stealth version will not show on the trophies screen. Perhaps I was wrong about that particular assumption of mine? Another point: I do agree what you are saying Theese is correct that the CFW filesystem will always be different in some detectable way. Yet it is only a problem if the OFW code / PSN server queries return that specific filesys data back to Sony servers in the communication session. My PS3 is still broken right now. But I have been planning to take TCP dumps with Wireshark, to compare exactly the data packets send back to Sony. Ie TCP dumps comparing both the 4.30 OFW, and 4.30 Rogero CFW v2.05. This seems like the only way to avoid any uncertainty... otherwise we are all just guessing and speculating if that really matters or not regarding Sony's current CFW detection / ban risk. Of course, knowing our luck Sony might decided to release a brand new OFW anytime soon.

Well Duplex never mods eboot of games and almost all games are the original backup when you download it, the eboot patch is just given in description like always and of course, I had the original disc of BO2 and I was playing on CFW without getting ban. Playing with BO2 backup is fine as long as the eboot isn't patched

Right now i'm ban because I didn't follow all I said above, like being logged in and running Rogero for over 10 hours (Yep forgot my PS3 was on, and it had to be on multiman). since i've done that, i'm banned. Plus, I wasn't using the Stealth version at all

[HulkWogan]

Originally Posted by SublimESmoker420 The only games I mod are GTA4, and Mw2... I spawn cars for people in GTA, and make it to were people run fast and jump high on Mw2...

I'm speechless, you have no grounds for complaint at all as you have taken sony's terms and basically sh*t on them, you have also used mods online breaking the unwritten rules of custom firmware too, no member here worth their salt would do that.

After 2+ years of cfw I as many others can still access psn yet you had cfw for a few months and was banned, that is proof enough that you need to stay well away from psn and playing legitimately or 'legitamentally' as you put it requires ofw and not cfw, you see where you have gone wrong?

What happened to the I don't care if I get banned attitude anyway?

[mckenziesdaddy]

Since I am still on 3.55 because of CodeUnique. I have been following all these PSN ban threads, But I still have some questions.

1. Can you get banned being on CFW, Signed on to PSN with nothing loaded other then XMB?

2. How safe is using the PSN store on CFW? Or am I better off using other methods to get my paid for content?

3. All I ever see is I was playing "black Ops 2 and banned threads", So it is safe to assume games 4+ years old are safe from the ban hammer? I am only asking since "Buzz Quiz World" has quizzes that can only be played if logged into PSN.

I am unsure if this is thread jacking, Since the topic title is PSN Precautions.

[Theeze]

Originally Posted by HulkWogan I'm speechless, you have no grounds for complaint at all as you have taken sony's terms and basically sh*t on them, you have also used mods online breaking the unwritten rules of custom firmware too, no member here worth their salt would do that. After 2+ years of cfw I as many others can still access psn yet you had cfw for a few months and was banned, that is proof enough that you need to stay well away from psn and playing legitimately or 'legitamentally' as you put it requires ofw and not cfw, you see where you have gone wrong? What happened to the I don't care if I get banned attitude anyway?

Took the words right out of my mouth. 3 months in and psn access and have used it to it's potential, downloading from stuff from the store, playing online via actual disc no backup manager during those "legit sessions".

I'll never understand when people say I never use mods and then claim they've used it in some form. The only way I see us getting banned is if someone else gets us banned, How long until Sony gets really annoyed with the unbans and mods until they say paint everyone of us with the same brush?

That's why I'm so anal with people using unban tools on this site, because eventually we'll pay for their stupid COD addiction.
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Originally Posted by SublimESmoker420 I play games legitamentally without modding... The only games I mod are GTA4, and Mw2... I spawn cars for people in GTA, and make it to were people run fast and jump high on Mw2...

People have been getting suspended for hacking mw2 on ofw alone, think about it this way. Sony was about to suspend you for a week, they look at your account and see you've been flagged for mods on other games while using cfw.

So that one week turned into permanent one. We're all on cfw, we don't have any right to make any noise we already broke one rule the least we can do is shut up and respect it. They may leave you alone and let you use PSN but one wrong move and there's no way back. It's a chess match, they're just waiting for you to make a wrong move so they can own you.

[SublimESmoker420]

Originally Posted by Theeze Took the words right out of my mouth. 3 months in and psn access and have used it to it's potential, downloading from stuff from the store, playing online via actual disc no backup manager during those "legit sessions". I'll never understand when people say I never use mods and then claim they've used it in some form. The only way I see us getting banned is if someone else gets us banned, How long until Sony gets really annoyed with the unbans and mods until they say paint everyone of us with the same brush? That's why I'm so anal with people using unban tools on this site, because eventually we'll pay for their stupid COD addiction. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* People have been getting suspended for hacking mw2 on ofw alone, think about it this way. Sony was about to suspend you for a week, they look at your account and see you've been flagged for mods on other games while using cfw. So that one week turned into permanent one. We're all on cfw, we don't have any right to make any noise we already broke one rule the least we can do is shut up and respect it. They may leave you alone and let you use PSN but one wrong move and there's no way back. It's a chess match, they're just waiting for you to make a wrong move so they can own you.

Now that's that **** I don't like... They can control us like dolls and ****... Take our accounts and our ps3's and completely butt rape you like a ragdoll...

We need to stand up and get what we paid for...

I've been modding Mw2 lobbies for awhile as a matter of fact... I don't know how I could have gotten caught... My friend is a PSN Admin, he says my account is available for online gameplay on another OFW ps3... Such as a friends ps3 or something, but my ps3 is toast...

One of these days... Us gamers will have our revenge and get what we paid for, and more! You just wait mate. Sony is gonna get butt raped like all of us did. What goes around, comes around.
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Originally Posted by HulkWogan I'm speechless, you have no grounds for complaint at all as you have taken sony's terms and basically sh*t on them, you have also used mods online breaking the unwritten rules of custom firmware too, no member here worth their salt would do that. After 2+ years of cfw I as many others can still access psn yet you had cfw for a few months and was banned, that is proof enough that you need to stay well away from psn and playing legitimately or 'legitamentally' as you put it requires ofw and not cfw, you see where you have gone wrong? What happened to the I don't care if I get banned attitude anyway?

Oh come on... Took a **** on Sony? What have they got to loose? Nothing. Modding games online has been a dream for years. I got to do it. It was cool, helping out illegally spawning **** for people, making people run fast, jump high...

The only thing I did wrong was break 2 simple stupid f*cking rules that NO ONE reals cares about... Who ACTUALLY reads the "Term of use"?

[goncalodoom]

Got banned just for going online and synchronizing trophies,i never played online with CFW(and i seriously mean NEVER!),always cleaned my logs and replaced the logs using PSNinja,i used multiman stealth and before going online i deleted all homebrew ,so all this bull**** precautions are just stupid theories,no matter what you do sony can detect you,im sure the latest psn update added some way of detecting CFW,now they track everything you do from the moment you sign in on PSN,so... its just a matter of time before you get banned...
**** SONY!