[JonahUK]

Originally Posted by axujen Why? Why would you do such thing? This is exactly the kind of thing thats killing this scene, you're just ruining another person's(team's) work. Whats in it for you?

I guess you missed this bit:

"Do not stole glevand’s work again"

Which means this is not their work anyway.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by axujen Why? Why would you do such thing? This is exactly the kind of thing thats killing this scene, you're just ruining another person's(team's) work. Whats in it for you?

lol didn't you read ?
The 3K3Y team stole other peoples work...

[axujen]

I guess you missed this bit: "Do not stole glevand’s work again" Which means this is not their work anyway.

lol didn't you read ? The 3K3Y team stole other peoples work...

And did he know that before or after he decided to hack their work?

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by axujen And did he know that before or after he decided to hack their work?

Before, he probably hacked it to show people like you, that it was someone else's work.

Both the PKG and Application on that site are someone else's work.

[TitaniumL]

Originally Posted by axujen And did he know that before or after he decided to hack their work?

Are you fo' real, bruh?

[axujen]

Before, he probably hacked it to show people like you, that it was someone else's work. Both the PKG and Application on that site are someone else's work.

Well, for once i didn't ask him to show me anything
Two what proof do you have that is indeed someone else work? Its code solving a problem and there can only be a limited amount of ways to solve a problem. Just because its similar doesn't mean he actually stole it.
Three that doesn't mean we can around hacking peoples stuff and accessing their information on the basis of that it might be someone else's work.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by axujen Well, for once i didn't ask him to show me anything Two what proof do you have that is indeed someone else work? Its code solving a problem and there can only be a limited amount of ways to solve a problem. Just because its similar doesn't mean he actually stole it. Three that doesn't mean we can around hacking peoples stuff and accessing their information on the basis of that it might be someone else's work.

If i start saying what is on my mind, it will be very, very offensive, so i will leave it to people with a much more level head than me to explain....

[zecoxao]

Originally Posted by axujen Well, for once i didn't ask him to show me anything Two what proof do you have that is indeed someone else work? Its code solving a problem and there can only be a limited amount of ways to solve a problem. Just because its similar doesn't mean he actually stole it. Three that doesn't mean we can around hacking peoples stuff and accessing their information on the basis of that it might be someone else's work.

you want proof? i can show you some proof

http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/BD_Dr...se_Engineering

good luck figuring out what he has done on that single page

edit: oh wait, i forgot, that might not be him, could be someone else. i can also provide you with other sorts of proof

http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...action=history

oh mai, it seems like it was actually Glevand who has done most of what's on that page.

[JonahUK]

Originally Posted by axujen that doesn't mean we can around hacking peoples stuff and accessing their information on the basis of that it might be someone else's work.

If nobody did that, we wouldn't have a "scene" in the first place.

[axujen]

http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/BD_Dr...se_Engineering

Thank you for confirming some of my doubts about this program.
Now in the link you gave i found a program. Now if you look at the beginning of the file you will see that the program is released under a license that allows other people to view reuse it, its called an open source license, and the only restriction about this particular license is that if you decided to release a modified copy of the work or just re-release it you would have to license it with the same license again.
And since nothing is being officially released by the 3k3y dev team that means they have so far done nothing wrong.

Now of course you're going to reply to this and call me stupid but you know what you're _not_ going to do? your not going to tell me that hacking their work was something wrong and your not going to admit that the 3k3y dev team has done nothing wrong by using open source code in their yet to be released project.

here is the license under which the glevand code was released:

/*- * Copyright (C) 2012 glevand <geoffrey.levand @mail .ru> * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer, * without modification, immediately at the beginning of the file. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES * OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, * DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY * THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT * (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF * THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. */