[baileyscream]

this is mine

[haz367]

damn...thats the shizzle..always "bazen boven bazen" hehe

[Bigbones87]

Originally Posted by 3absiso Can you direct me to a good handle for the Ayoue

here is just the adjustable jig, but you will need a 1" pipe and something for the pipe to attach to, like a table or something http://sra-solder.com/product.php/66...FQsGnQodtHkABA

Here is he actual platform setup http://sra-solder.com/product.php/63...FQ4EnQodexUAjw

Just look at e platform setup to get an idea for how to make something for the first link I gave you. The second link is more for working on smaller pcb boards. I found some other stands, but can't seem to locate them right now.
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Originally Posted by baileyscream this is mine

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it......you suck! I want a Scotle so bad. They really are the cats ass in rework stations.

[kayy]

@baileyscream

http://bgamods.ca/index.php?route=pr...&product_id=69

can it get any cheaper than that rate?

my part of d world, i need to pay $1200 just for d station.

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by Bigbones87 I'm just gonna go ahead and say it......you suck! I want a Scotle so bad. They really are the cats ass in rework stations.

pain in the ass to set up.
its all done on pc for me.
but the ceramic plates are stupidly fragile
all 3 were broke in the pre heater when i recived it and had to wait for replacements
but it sure is the best way to re-ball.

the v4 has a bigger pre-heater so it works best for the thick large boards that ps3's / xboxes have.

i have had mine for a while and i am still tweeking it.
all on old boards.
i wont be doing a genuine re-ball for a while still.
and thatsa the thing with re-work stations.

you need the correct tools but also alot of spare time to set it ll up and teach yourself how to do it.

[9bz]

to reflow and reball with this set up you will need a good profile. here is a good one to start with for xbox360 reflow.



Rework Station: Aoyue 968
Preheater Station: Puhuit T-8280

Using 'two' K-Type Thermocouples placed at 'opposite' corners of the chip being reflown
Board lying unclamped on the stock preheater rails


Reflow Profile - Short Version:

- Set Preheater to 150C....hold there for 45 sec.
- Increase Preheater to 200C & also turn on 968 w/ Nozzle 1"above chip & set it to 252C....hold there for 45 sec.
- Increase Preheater to 220C & lower nozzle to within 1/8" of mobo.
- Increase 968 3 deg. / sec. until you hit 235C...hold for 15 seconds, then drop back down to 90C and shutoff & turn off along w/ preheater plate.


Reflow Profile - Long Version:

- Turn on and set T8280 to 150C....Hold for 45 seconds (Preheat phase 1)

- Next, increase T8280 to 200C....Hold for 45 seconds (Preheat / Soak phase 2)
- Also turn on 968 at the 'same' time as above 200C setting input on Ownta and set 968 display to 252C...(Hold for same 45 seconds)
(4141 Nozzle is 1" above mobo surface at this point)

- Next, increase T8280 to 220C after completion of the above 45 second hold...leave here for duration of reflow (Soak phase 3)
- At the 'same' time, also lower the nozzle to within 1/8" of the mobo surface, and increase 968 display input until the actual topside chip "Probe temp" is at 230-235C..hold for 15 seconds (Reflow phase)...NOTE: If you are using multiple thermocouples next to the Chip, then go by the 'lowest' probe temp.

(the only 'exception' to this is if I am reflowing an older motherboard 05 & 06...then I try not to exceed 225C for 15 sec. and ensure I hit a minimum of 217C at the 'lowest' probe temp. as in my own experience, it seems as though the original lead free solder used by ms melts at a lower temp than what is on the newer boards made in 07 and beyond)

- Slowly raise nozzle after 15 second timer goes off, and dial down 968 display to 90C...Turn off 968 after bottom display matches 90C setting
- Dial down T8280 back to 150C starting point and immediately turn off the heater plate power (black switch). Leave main unit power (red switch) on until unit cools to 50-65C then power off.

- Let board cool for 7 minutes...then remove and place on small cookie sheet to get it off the still 'very' warm T8280 preheater and let cool for another 5 minutes.

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by kayy @baileyscream http://bgamods.ca/index.php?route=pr...&product_id=69 can it get any cheaper than that rate? my part of d world, i need to pay $1200 just for d station.

no BGA mods is where you want to be.
if you message him (its just 1 guy that runs the site) and tell him exacly what you want it for then he will make sure you just get what you need and nothing more.
great guy
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Originally Posted by 9bz to reflow and reball with this set up you will need a good profile. here is a good one to start with for xbox360 reflow. Rework Station: Aoyue 968 Preheater Station: Puhuit T-8280 Using 'two' K-Type Thermocouples placed at 'opposite' corners of the chip being reflown Board lying unclamped on the stock preheater rails Reflow Profile - Short Version: - Set Preheater to 150C....hold there for 45 sec. - Increase Preheater to 200C & also turn on 968 w/ Nozzle 1"above chip & set it to 252C....hold there for 45 sec. - Increase Preheater to 220C & lower nozzle to within 1/8" of mobo. - Increase 968 3 deg. / sec. until you hit 235C...hold for 15 seconds, then drop back down to 90C and shutoff & turn off along w/ preheater plate. Reflow Profile - Long Version: - Turn on and set T8280 to 150C....Hold for 45 seconds (Preheat phase 1) - Next, increase T8280 to 200C....Hold for 45 seconds (Preheat / Soak phase 2) - Also turn on 968 at the 'same' time as above 200C setting input on Ownta and set 968 display to 252C...(Hold for same 45 seconds) (4141 Nozzle is 1" above mobo surface at this point) - Next, increase T8280 to 220C after completion of the above 45 second hold...leave here for duration of reflow (Soak phase 3) - At the 'same' time, also lower the nozzle to within 1/8" of the mobo surface, and increase 968 display input until the actual topside chip "Probe temp" is at 230-235C..hold for 15 seconds (Reflow phase)...NOTE: If you are using multiple thermocouples next to the Chip, then go by the 'lowest' probe temp. (the only 'exception' to this is if I am reflowing an older motherboard 05 & 06...then I try not to exceed 225C for 15 sec. and ensure I hit a minimum of 217C at the 'lowest' probe temp. as in my own experience, it seems as though the original lead free solder used by ms melts at a lower temp than what is on the newer boards made in 07 and beyond) - Slowly raise nozzle after 15 second timer goes off, and dial down 968 display to 90C...Turn off 968 after bottom display matches 90C setting - Dial down T8280 back to 150C starting point and immediately turn off the heater plate power (black switch). Leave main unit power (red switch) on until unit cools to 50-65C then power off. - Let board cool for 7 minutes...then remove and place on small cookie sheet to get it off the still 'very' warm T8280 preheater and let cool for another 5 minutes.

thats ok for xbox but the ps3's boards a thicker so the temp / times need tweeking.
its hard to find a good base profile for ps3 to tweek from

[9bz]

thats ok for xbox but the ps3's boards a thicker so the temp / times need tweeking. its hard to find a good base profile for ps3 to tweek from

had this set up for years and i can reball 360's and ps3 great with it, but it was alot of work to set it up.
great place to find out about reflows/reballs is forums.cvxgameconsolerepair.com

[baileyscream]

Originally Posted by 9bz had this set up for years and i can reball 360's and ps3 great with it, but it was alot of work to set it up. great place to find out about reflows/reballs is forums.cvxgameconsolerepair.com

i get
this website is parked for free
when i click go there i just add http://
to the start
i'm always looking for more sites to get hints and tips from.

[CopyLifted]

Originally Posted by 3absiso Can you direct me to a good handle for the Ayoue, i did not find any yet and have a custom made one from wood

If you mean a wand holder, I use a mic stand like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Samson-Technol...ords=mic+stand

Had to use a different mic holder though as the one supplied was too small. Use one of these (I got one from our local musical instrument shops):

http://www.amazon.com/Stage-MY250-Sh...ef=pd_sim_MI_5