[xtrem3x]

Originally Posted by brakk3n Is anyone else sick of seeing Android devices with attached joysticks that claim they will have some stake in the gaming industry? Sure, I'd love a new one with lots of original IP or big developers, but let's be realistic. These are simply tablets with control pads. These are for "casual" gamers and we all know what "casual" means - casual games are for morons who can't handle a real game and are entertained by the same game with new graphics. How many stupid skiing or racing simulators with no idea what gravity means can they make? Steambox is a small PC you can't upgrade. I don't like PC's you can't upgrade. The only plus side I see to their device is some people will realize that console based FPS suck. Nividia's (whatever it's named) is an even smaller PC that is based on "streaming games" meaning you eat up tons of bandwidth using it; plus for the streaming only games you must be on the net. I have no desire to be stuck with having to sign on the net every time I want to play game. Piss off & No thanks. I'm not even interested in the PS4 or the next XBOX due to licensing restrictions based on second hand games and all the DRM planned for both consoles. The basis for the second hand DRM is based on authenticating and locking the game of choice to your console which requires an Internet connection (this info is not per say 100% accurate). Frak that if I have to bring my entire PS4 to a friends to play a game I bought. The Ouya is the only fully-rooted box out of them all, but will suffer from lack of IP, the hoard of Apps already plaguing the market (casual crap). Having it rooted means we could see some nice stuff - sorta like an upgraded Raspberry Pi (which is an awesome media center for $80). To sum it up; If it's some Android/iOS pad with buttons & a joystick - frak off If it's some non-upgradable PC - frak off. If it requires the Internet to function - frak off. If "playing games" is simply a feature and not it's intended purpose then - frak off.

Wow, you cant read so I stopped reading your post half way down.

Tablets/Android is for casual gamers?
To an extent I agree, but as tablets are now as powerful as the 360 etc the games are getting better.

Steambox is a PC you can't upgrade?
That's also what a console is, so you're simply saying Steambox is a console. It'll be better then Sony & MS offerings though which is good.

Nvidia's is based on streaming games & uses lots of bandwidth?
Yes & no. You can play all Android games and stream games from your PC. What's this bandwidth thing you're mentioning? How are you wasting bandwidth when its over your wireless home network? Online streaming hasnt even been mentioned. Also signing in to do it? WTF?

I stopped reading after that so I dont know what else you said.
All I do know is that I doubt I'll be buying any more consoles.

[jhax78]

the only reason for me to wait for the Nvidia shield is to see what's it capable off root it
and see what's possible beyond what Nvidia intended it for

im not gonna buy it to play games that's for sure.

@brakk3n are you seriously worried about bandwidth?

[brakk3n]

Originally Posted by jhax78 the only reason for me to wait for the Nvidia shield is to see what's it capable off root it and see what's possible beyond what Nvidia intended it for im not gonna buy it to play games that's for sure. @brakk3n are you seriously worried about bandwidth?

Yes, most USA broadband companies now have a usage cap and it's rather small. They usually range from 150GB -> 250GB and if you go past this you can lose you account. I know as I have lost a Century Link account. Frak them. COX, AT&T, Verizon (land lines) and most of the major ISP's in the USA now CAP your usage and can be found in their AUP/EUP. It's something new they have started doing so most USA Internet companies that are advertising "unlimited Internet" are full of crap as explained to me "you can be on-line all you want, but you can only download so much". I've filed complaints with various organizations including the Government to no avail. Someone needs to do something as guy is being screwed an no one is doing anything about it. It's the same when Verizon capped their cell phones.

Most USA customers especially ones who use the Internet for their entertainment needs should be worried about their bandwidth usage. Go read your AUP/EUP or call your ISP.

[jhax78]

Originally Posted by brakk3n Yes, most USA broadband companies now have a usage cap and it's rather small. They usually range from 150GB -> 250GB and if you go past this you can lose you account. I know as I have lost a Century Link account. Frak them. COX, AT&T, Verizon (land lines) and most of the major ISP's in the USA now CAP your usage and can be found in their AUP/EUP. It's something new they have started doing so most USA Internet companies that are advertising "unlimited Internet" are full of crap as explained to me "you can be on-line all you want, but you can only download so much". I've filed complaints with various organizations including the Government to no avail. Someone needs to do something as guy is being screwed an no one is doing anything about it. It's the same when Verizon capped their cell phones. Most USA customers especially ones who use the Internet for their entertainment needs should be worried about their bandwidth usage. Go read your AUP/EUP or call your ISP.

wow those regulations suck then
totally understand it now tho, no fun in having a console or any entertainment system that will eat bandwidth.

i seriously thought you guys would have unlimited bandwidth too