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Old 02-19-2013   #1
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Thermal paste and temperature

Recently I had some problems with the CPU and GPU temperature being too high, around 65 degrees in idle (top case off). That time i used Artic cooling MX-2. So i figure it might be because i put it on in a very bad way, so i went out and bought Artic Silver 5 instead. I followed this guide: ARCTIC SILVER APPLICATION-GILKSY - YouTube

Now my temperature is worse, with 69 cpu and 63 gpu, and this is with the top case off...

What the hell should i do?
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what is the °C/W rating of each compound?
Is the surface of both heatsinks FLAT?
Do the clamps need reforming?
Did you use loads & loads of heatsink compound?

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Originally Posted by underwurlde View Post
what is the °C/W rating of each compound?
Is the surface of both heatsinks FLAT?
Do the clamps need reforming?
Did you use loads & loads of heatsink compound?

Andy
What do you mean with °C/W rating?

Yeah I tighted them very hard, and i put thermal paste on at the sice of a rice corn. (Like Gilky did in the video)
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That video is retarded, never touch the surface with your fingers more than you need to, might leave organic material that might even make it worse. Just apply a grain of rice or a pea and let the pressure of the heatsink flatten it ut tightening it properly with the clamps, bend them a bit more pressure if you will.
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Originally Posted by jonnyjaeger View Post
That video is retarded, never touch the surface with your fingers more than you need to, might leave organic material that might even make it worse. Just apply a grain of rice or a pea and let the pressure of the heatsink flatten it ut tightening it properly with the clamps, bend them a bit more pressure if you will.
Oh i didn't know that... I've bended the clamps a bit, lets see if that works
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While I'm on it, could someone answer me where these screws should go, and also where should this gummy thing be? (I have a slim CHECH-2103B)


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My temp is still at 69... damnit, any ideas?
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Bumping this up!
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Those 4 screws go n the bottom side of the plastic lip, directly under where the USB ports and power eject board is. Flip the console n it's top and you will see the 4 screw holes on the plastic ridge that leads to the beginning of the top plastic. About the temps, in my experience, taking the console apart and putting it back together over and over seem to make things worse. I don't know why, but I have done the same thing. Everytime I would take it apart and reapply compound, the temps would ether stay the same or get worse.
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Those 4 screws go n the bottom side of the plastic lip, directly under where the USB ports and power eject board is. Flip the console n it's top and you will see the 4 screw holes on the plastic ridge that leads to the beginning of the top plastic. About the temps, in my experience, taking the console apart and putting it back together over and over seem to make things worse. I don't know why, but I have done the same thing. Everytime I would take it apart and reapply compound, the temps would ether stay the same or get worse.
Thanks, stupid me!

Well, the best temp I've had was 65 CPU and 60-62 GPU, and that was with the Artic Cooling MX-2. I have no idea what to do now, as the temp is higher with Artic Silver... Games even lag abit when i play them, and I belive it's because the CPU/GPU is a bit overheated...
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Originally Posted by Muffen View Post
Thanks, stupid me!

Well, the best temp I've had was 65 CPU and 60-62 GPU, and that was with the Artic Cooling MX-2. I have no idea what to do now, as the temp is higher with Artic Silver... Games even lag abit when i play them, and I belive it's because the CPU/GPU is a bit overheated...
Well I can give you an answer about why it's higher now with artic silver than with mx compound. They truely are the same temps, figuratively speaking. Mx compound has no cure time, so the temp you get from it now is the temp it is always going to have until it's spent, which is something like 8 years, less if you use the heck out of it. With artic silver, there is a 200 hour curing time before you get the actual temp. It won't be a huge drastic change, but it will be 3-5°c on average after the curing process is complete, which brings you back down to what it was at. For this reason, I always use mx compound and the pea method, not the rice grain. Everyone swears by artic paste, and it is top notch, but it's condiuctive and needs to cure, where mx isn't and doesn't, and they both give you the same temp results, give or take 1-2°c
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Also, for reference. I have a slim console, just took it out the box, never used, stock paste....but hasn't been spent because its never been used. I get around 62°c on either chip, give or take 1-2°c, on idle after 20 minutes at dash. So if you can get temps around 65°c or lower on the chips with a used console, which has stressed thermal compound under the IHS, then you did all you can do by replacing thermal paste. Only way to get better temps is to replace paste under IHS, which is not for the faint of heart, and do a fan mod, which is also helpful. Basically, the temp sensor reads the temp of the console, and when it senses the console is getting too hot, it kicks the fan up to help. As long as the fans are going full speed, then the console is cool enough. If the fans get really load, like overbearing loud, then the console can't get it cool enough with fans and then it's time to worry about the console. Main thing to remember is, it's a console. Play it and have fun. If you spend all your time worrying about how hot it is and if it's going to die, you will not have any fun. Just do what you can do, and hope for the best. Remember, airflow is key.
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Originally Posted by Bigbones87 View Post
Well I can give you an answer about why it's higher now with artic silver than with mx compound. They truely are the same temps, figuratively speaking. Mx compound has no cure time, so the temp you get from it now is the temp it is always going to have until it's spent, which is something like 8 years, less if you use the heck out of it. With artic silver, there is a 200 hour curing time before you get the actual temp. It won't be a huge drastic change, but it will be 3-5°c on average after the curing process is complete, which brings you back down to what it was at. For this reason, I always use mx compound and the pea method, not the rice grain. Everyone swears by artic paste, and it is top notch, but it's condiuctive and needs to cure, where mx isn't and doesn't, and they both give you the same temp results, give or take 1-2°c
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Also, for reference. I have a slim console, just took it out the box, never used, stock paste....but hasn't been spent because its never been used. I get around 62°c on either chip, give or take 1-2°c, on idle after 20 minutes at dash. So if you can get temps around 65°c or lower on the chips with a used console, which has stressed thermal compound under the IHS, then you did all you can do by replacing thermal paste. Only way to get better temps is to replace paste under IHS, which is not for the faint of heart, and do a fan mod, which is also helpful. Basically, the temp sensor reads the temp of the console, and when it senses the console is getting too hot, it kicks the fan up to help. As long as the fans are going full speed, then the console is cool enough. If the fans get really load, like overbearing loud, then the console can't get it cool enough with fans and then it's time to worry about the console. Main thing to remember is, it's a console. Play it and have fun. If you spend all your time worrying about how hot it is and if it's going to die, you will not have any fun. Just do what you can do, and hope for the best. Remember, airflow is key.
I really appreciate the help, very informative! I didn't know about the curing time, so i guess I'll have to wait and see how the temp will be.

As for the fan speed, It isn't too loud, so i guess it aint too hot for the fans to go at full speed then. I just feel that it's strange that you get these high temps, because other ppl say they get around 55 at idle...

I was thinking about if a laptop cooler underneath the ps3 would help, but I'm not sure... Do you know any way to do a fan mod?
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