[smf]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Rest assured, somebody will find a way to play pirated games and charge people for it. For me, this is just another reason to skip out on $ony this gen...which is odd because I'm not even interested in pirating games.

I don't think we'll see the current situation with the Wii & PS3 carry on over into the next generation. Drive emulators are going to be the interesting thing to watch, but they will be expensive and the manufacturers can easily produce new models that will stop them working.

[bubbleboy]

I hope Sony make two BIG and LOUD announcements:

1. The PS4 IS UNHACKABLE

2. The PS4 WILL NEVER RUN LINUX

Hackers love a challenge and serious work on hacking the PS4 will commence as soon as these statements are made.

[SonicManipulation]

No system is ever 100% and nothing is ever certain. The ps3 was "unhackable" but was eventually hacked. With the 360 there was the first jtag exploit which was blocked and then considered unhackable, but then the reset glitch was discovered.

When it comes to computers and software NOTHING is impossible, and even if it's impossible to start with doesn't mean in the future it won't be possible.

[smf]

Originally Posted by SonicManipulation No system is ever 100% and nothing is ever certain. The ps3 was "unhackable" but was eventually hacked. With the 360 there was the first jtag exploit which was blocked and then considered unhackable, but then the reset glitch was discovered. When it comes to computers and software NOTHING is impossible, and even if it's impossible to start with doesn't mean in the future it won't be possible.

There are plenty of things that they can do to protect against current methods for exploiting though. Which means that people will have to find new ways. There is not much point in Microsoft doing a new spin of the chips to stop the RGH now, but I would guess that the next generation console will be better protected.

If they do it right then the only chance would be to factor the keys, which will take a long time if the key size is big enough.

You can only hope they make a mistake, but there is no guarantee that they will have made a big enough mistake & if they do that you'll spot it.

[klbarnes1]

What ever happened to Graf Chokolo? That dude was the best! He said he would never stop unless Sony killed him, LOLOLOL! Did he stop or did he settle with sony, or is he still in jail?

[AsimLeonheart]

If this is true then I will have to buy legitimate copies or quit gaming this gen. :-( I know that piracy is considered theft but in third world countries like mine where monthly income is barely $200 for an average college/university graduate, we cannot afford to buy $60 dollar games... Piracy has been a boon for people like me because otherwise we would never have been able to play any games at all...

[bammo]

Originally Posted by AsimLeonheart If this is true then I will have to buy legitimate copies or quit gaming this gen. :-( I know that piracy is considered theft but in third world countries like mine where monthly income is barely $200 for an average college/university graduate, we cannot afford to buy $60 dollar games... Piracy has been a boon for people like me because otherwise we would never have been able to play any games at all...

Right I hear that but at the end of the day Sony doesn't care if you can afford to buy a game or not because there are millions of others who can buy the games and to think back on how long it took to even put your foot in the door of hacking the ps3 I can only imagine that it will take even longer to hack the ps4 especially if Sony learned from their mistake with the security of the ps3

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by smf The DMCA/EUCD also makes it illegal to circumvent DRM.

It doesn't actually.

It makes it illegal (that word in itself is dubious at best in this instance) to circumvent any methods put in place to deter piracy etc.

You can do anything and everything you wish with something you have purchased as long as you do not distribute it or in any way hinder the sales or copyright of the owner/publisher and such like.

Very short description of course, but don't be fooled by all the legalise and pants spoken by Sony and the rest.

You have rights as a customer so use them

[synce]

There's always a way around everything, and there's always someone there to leak things. I'm actually hoping we start seeing "offline passes" for used games next-gen. I'm also hoping PS4 is region locked and has all sorts of other limitations. It'll just get hacked that much quicker.

[General Plot]

Originally Posted by AsimLeonheart If this is true then I will have to buy legitimate copies or quit gaming this gen. :-( I know that piracy is considered theft but in third world countries like mine where monthly income is barely $200 for an average college/university graduate, we cannot afford to buy $60 dollar games... Piracy has been a boon for people like me because otherwise we would never have been able to play any games at all...

Just like so many other people, you think not being able to afford something justifies downloading it illegally. Sorry, but just because content exists doesn't mean you're automatically entitled to it. If new games are too expensive, explore other ways (used game stores, ebay, etc...). If you can afford to buy the console (which is much more expensive), then you can afford some money for games.