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Old 02-26-2013   #11
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@FreePlay uhmmm.......macrovision. hooking one vcr to another to record would bring color fad in and out (contrast/brightness bursting then dwindles) early vcr's did not have this protection.

edit; also any vcr tape could be recorded on. they just need a piece of tape over the lock

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Old 02-26-2013   #12
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Originally Posted by FreePlay View Post
There was no copy protection at all on VHS tapes... store-bought tapes couldn't be recorded on, not recorded from.

You could if you stuck some sellotape over the broken off security tab hole

(intact security tab, left hand side in pic)



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Old 02-26-2013   #13
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Originally Posted by mr secret View Post
I know that everyone says you can not simply copy a PS3 game to a blank blu-ray disk and play that on your PS3 because of various reasons, mainly the fact that the original blu-ray disk is copy protected ie encrypted. But I suddenly remembered that many years ago when we were all using and watching VHS tapes. Anyway, if i remember correctly the store brought ones all had copy protection on. However my school I.T teacher at the time told me that if you copied the original tape then copied the copy that it (somehow)gets passed the copy protection and you would be able to watch the copied tape without seeing a load of 'snow'
so my theory is that surely it could work for blu-ray dvds. it is worth a go i think. just copy a PS3 game then copy the copy and then put it into your pS3 and see if it recognises it. It may not let you play it for some other reason but it may at least recognise it.
though i am not advocating anybody break any laws and or copyright laws i am merely suggesting how there may be a flaw in the copy protection part of the PS3 Blu-ray disks
You can copy it to a LP recorder and than you can scratch out the copy protection with a needle.




I don't no how much LP's u need for Killzone 3 to copy LOL.
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Originally Posted by KopKaasDamp View Post
I don't no how much LP's u need for Killzone 3 to copy LOL.
Interesting theory

I implemented it :

LP contains typically 20-22mins audio, if we presume comparable audio quality from vinyl vs MP3 would be 320kbps as I believe vinyl has a warmth that cant be digitized.. but thats another story... (..and CD audio is 160kbps min).

There are 60 seconds in a minute, so we multiply by 60 to get X*60 kilobits per minute.
There are 1024 kilobits in a megabit, so we divide X*60 by 1024 to get X*60/1024.
There are 8 megabits in a megabyte, so we divide X*60/1024 by 8 to get X*60/1024/8.
Simplifying, we get X*60/1024/8 = X*60/(1024*8) = X*60/8192 = X*15/2048.

So, a file that is X kbps is X*15/2048 megabytes per minute.

Using the example of 320kbps, you get 320*15/2048=4800/2048=2.34375 megabytes per minute.

For reference, 128kbps would yield 128*15/2048=1920/2048=0.9375 megabytes per minute.

So we can think that an avg 20 min LP = 46mb (highest capacity is a few mins more, so lets round up to 50MB avg)

Killzone 3 = 25.4GB (2D)

25.4GB = 26010 = 520 pieces of vinyl.

or 44GB (3D)

44GB = 45056 MB / 50mb = 902 pieces of vinyl.

All figures rounded up... approx.

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Originally Posted by Ubefuct View Post
@FreePlay uhmmm.......macrovision. hooking one vcr to another to record would bring color fad in and out (contrast/brightness bursting then dwindles) early vcr's did not have this protection.

edit; also any vcr tape could be recorded on. they just need a piece of tape over the lock
Interesting. I never ran into this at all. Had no idea it was a thing.
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