[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Same f@ggotty ploy $ony used with the PS2 vs. the Dreamcast. Good job on sniffing it out @hellsing9 . All this really is, is an attempt to convince gamers and developers alike that the PS4 will be easier to develop for than say...the Wii U or Durango. Simple math for the simple minded. I'm sure EA and Activision will be right on board with this.

Any new product (specially from sony) always will be *easier* to dev's work.
They need some feedback from companies and i can understand that.
But i don't buy this *tale* of PS4 will be better to code than PS3.

As a marketing strategy is awesome but in reality i think this is ****ed up.

Originally Posted by BwE Posts like this that go on the first page really makes me think this entire forum is full of 14 year olds.

So why comment on first place on this thread if you think that way?.

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@CaptainCPS-X Codemasters ruined EA need for speed series for good. Im not *****ing about Codemasters in this case but in the way the express that it's easier to code on PS4 than PS3.
I hate when they *hype* some product that's not complete yet and most devs are saying the same.
"It's easier to code in Wii-U than on a Wii.*

I think (my opinion) that kind of argument serves to gain some simpathy from Sony's side.
Don't blame them though but...

[evnflow]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Any new product (specially from sony) always will be *easier* to dev's work. They need some feedback from companies and i can understand that. But i don't buy this *tale* of PS4 will be better to code than PS3. As a marketing strategy is awesome but in reality i think this is ****ed up. So why comment on first place on this thread if you think that way?.

only reason would be, that they are using the previous code that they just figured out after 7 years..lol

[gingerbread]

Originally Posted by WalangAlam Would love this since I don't like split screens even in huge tvs...

Would like to add this too.

If sony build and sold wireless HDMI transmitter & receiver for that feature, it would be awesome and the wireless range for the PS4 controller is extended.

This would be great. P1 can be in the living room and P2 can be in the bedroom.

[evnflow]

ps1=awesomeness ps2=Greatness..hahaha

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by gingerbread Would like to add this too. If sony build and sold wireless HDMI transmitter & receiver for that feature, it would be awesome and the wireless range for the PS4 controller is extended. This would be great. P1 can be in the living room and P2 can be in the bedroom.

I don't want to be a party crasher. I think the idea is awesome but if they find a way to make it, they will find a way to make you pay even more for it and probably later remove it because causes an interference with your router or some lame excuse from their side.

Originally Posted by evnflow only reason would be, that they are using the previous code that they just figured out after 7 years..lol

Nothing new there. We still have a 7 year old hardware on our PS3 or even more...not surprised that devs got lazzy.

[evnflow]

EXCUSE ONLY!! well sony's side only..lol
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Originally Posted by hellsing9 I don't want to be a party crasher. I think the idea is awesome but if they find a way to make it, they will find a way to make you pay even more for it and probably later remove it because causes an interference with your router or some lame excuse from their side. Nothing new there. We still have a 7 year old hardware on our PS3 or even more...not surprised that devs got lazzy.

true..to an extent..devs do it for fun..the community demands..very HIGH DEMAND over time and experience..why it is so slow..people are too impatient(myself included ) but you have to learn it's all in OUR hands..start to learn YOURSELF, and it makes the community LARGER

[YlodedKing]

This article would be better without the "extreme personal touch" if you know what I mean ...
Maybe it's your opinion @hellsing9 and I respect that but I think your posts should be more civilized because they go straight in frontpage and people would think that "ps3hax members are just like that topic in frontpage or that we are animals that love blood " (note the quote) .
I think that this is noted from the newcomers and I think that its the frontpage the most essential for all people visiting ps3hax .
Charisma is a different thing and some topics are better filled with it and have the authors genuine reaction which would be expected and enjoyed by its readers ( I mean this for GregoryRasputin posts) .

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by YlodedKing This article would be better without the "extreme personal touch" if you know what I mean ... Maybe it's your opinion @hellsing9 and I respect that but I think your posts should be more civilized because they go straight in frontpage and people would think that "ps3hax members are just like that topic in frontpage or that we are animals that love blood " (note the quote) . I think that this is noted from the newcomers and I think that its the frontpage the most essential for all people visiting ps3hax . Charisma is a different thing and some topics are better filled with it and have the authors genuine reaction which would be expected and enjoyed by its readers ( I mean this for GregoryRasputin posts) .

Point.
Used my "extreme personal touch" because i grow tired of PS4 hype.
And the ones who fail to see the pattern again as a new product arrives or they are blind or they don't want to see something obvious.

My posts/articles most of the times have the same content and hence this is an article that got frontpaged because i wanted to, i don't think that represents community behaviour nor damage community reputation.

It's kinda ironic coming from your side to tell me this when some random "carnage carnival" start on some threads on the core of our own community some users laugh about other users insulting, disrespecting fellow members as well mods/s-mods/etc.
Yeah maybe im representing something that's it not meant to be but it's the way i see this situation right now.

@GregoryRasputin has another way to express himself without let his *rage* cloud his writing skills about certain topics exposed on a frontpage article.
But greg is greg, and me is me (redundancy)

Regards.

[evnflow]

if you come to ps3hax..you're pretty much looking for ps3(well i guess ps4..lol) news..and it's going to be a lil' bias..true, hellsing9 puts himself into it..but if you look at any news journalist, they put themselves into it also..it's what you do, when you sit down and write a column..you don't do it, cause you have to..it's cause you want to..and no offense i saw the videos..and they didn't show jack for an actual system..just the controller(which looks crappy by the way..haha)and the systems aspects are a devs kit(which is normally over powered, compared to the real system)..

[Cypherous]

Yeah man they totally only showed racing games, i mean its not like they showed Killzone or Watchdogs or Destiny, i mean clearly those are all racing games >.>

They showcased a massive 1 racing game and that was Drive Club, thats nowhere near what you seem to imply with this post which reeks of bias here

At the end of the day they showed what they had and that WILL include a racing title, not an overly epic one but it was there, the numerous other non-racing titles were also there if you actually opened youe eyes to look for them

You show some crazy controller and some demos (btw this demos were executed from a high-end pc) and you think you are big enough?. Im tired of teasing us with some patented piece of gadget. Show REAL proof of what you are working on or just step down from console market.

Hate to be the party pooper but the PS4 IS just a high end PC, there isn't any other way to describe it given the hardware platform they opted for so telling the difference between a PS4 and a high end PC just got a lot harder

Codemaster now says that it’s easier to develop on PS4 than on PS3?? are you fu@!$ kidding me?!?.

Not sure why this annoys you, one of the key points brought up numerous times was the complexity of coding for CELL, sony took that onboard and opted for the x86 platform which makes it a LOT easier to code for, porting games engines to PS4 just became a lot less of a headache and it means that when engine breakthroughs happen on the PC market the PS4 can take advantage of them a lot sooner, they showed UE4 running on the hardware so yeah

I can understand some developers that have they pockets filled promoting this kind of trash but again your triumph card is racing games AGAIN!??!. It’s ALL that you got?.

Again as someone pointed out, this is what codemasters actually make so its only natural and logical that they would showcase a racing game, again i'm not sure exactly why this comes as a shock

Yeah i can pretend that this next-gen PS4 will be something *Cool* but they are failing at delivering to US some real RAW facts to make us understand WTF they are doing.

Apart from hardware specs i fail to see what was missing, we can already pretty much guess most of the hardware, considering they mention that the console is running an 8-core APU that kind of limits you to one company and one product line so its likely to be a slightly modified AMD A10, some speculation seems to mention that it will have a slightly underclocked 7970M GPU alongside it, its not hard to understand what they are doing if you have even the most remote understanding of hardware, consoles cant compete with PC's in terms of power so if you cant beat them then join them :P

I can lie to my self like many of us probably will do.

Considering this very site has been posting rumours on the PS4 hardware for a long time now this is hardly a lie and certain people just seem to have issues accepting the truth because the PS4 didn't turn out to be gods gift to gamers, its just a moderate spec PC which will be out of date at release as most desktop systems will have once again surpassed it

I’m tired of Sony’s ways, I’m tired of deliver us pure BS and showing a pity controller and some demos. Just to say *We are here, we are working on something*.

Again short of actually showing us the box, which i'll add doesn't actually mean anything, they showcased the power of the console and what we can expect from it, i'm not seeing anything that was lacking, feel free to point out specific details you thought were missed which you fail to do in this rant

This being said. NO, it’s not a rant. It’s being tired of seeing the same thing all over again.

Yeah you keep telling yourself that