Geohot Forced to give up HDD to Sony - PS3Hax Network

Pirate · 02-10-2011

More updates from the drama-tastic battle between Sony vs Geohot. As you know recently Sony was denied the request to expedited discovery, and the ridiculous subpoenas they asked for. However not all is a win, today Sony scored another one and Geohot is now forced to give up his HDD with all his data including those of PS3 hacking.

To quote an article from Wired:

PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz must allow console-maker Sony to comb through his computer?s hard drive and retrieve information ?that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation,? a federal judge ruled Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston?s ruled from the bench in Sony?s ongoing legal action against the New Jersey hacker, who goes by GeoHot. The lawsuit is in connection to the 21-year-old being the first to fully hack the 4-year-old console, a jailbreak allowing it to play pirated and home-brewed games.

Hotz posted the code on his website last month, and put a how-to video on YouTube. That landed him in court here on Digital Millennium Copyright Act civil allegations. Among other things, Sony accuses him of trafficking in devices that circumvent controls meant to protect copyrighted works.

In the Thursday hearing, Hotz? attorney, Stewart Kellar, objected to the judge?s bench order, saying Sony would be able to ?observe? the contents of all his client?s files.

?That?s the breaks,? Illston said.

Hotz has already removed the YouTube video and the code from his website to comport with the judge?s earlier orders.

The judge had originally ruled weeks ago that Hotz must surrender all of his computer gear to Sony. But Kellar asked for reconsideration, and a hearing was hastily called Thursday

Illston informed Kellar that it was routine for the entire contents of computers to be searched in a bid to isolate what is being sought, as in child pornography prosecutions.

?Your honor, we?re certainly not dealing with child pornography in this issue,? Kellar replied.

Moments later, the judge responded:

?Here, I find probable cause that your client has got these things on his computer,? she said. ?It?s a problem when more than one thing is kept on the computer. I?ll make sure the order is and will be that Sony is only entitled to isolate ? the information on the computer that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation.?

The DMCA makes it either a civil or criminal offense to traffic in wares meant to circumvent devices protecting copyrighted works. Performing a similar hack on a mobile phone is lawful.

Sony?s attorney, James Gilliland, was quick to point out to Illston that the mobile phone is not at issue here. ?The conduct Mr. Hotz has engaged in is still covered by the DMCA,? he said.

The judge also backed off on an order that Hotz ?retrieve? the code from anybody who he may have forwarded it to.

?It?s information. It can?t be retrieved. It?s just not practical,? Illston said. ?What would they do, Xerox it and mail it back? ?

Illston said she changed her mind because she was not clearly aware of the details in her earlier order.

?This kind of got away from me and I apologize for that,? she said from the bench.

The judge ordered Sony and Kellar to confer with each other on the parameters of where and when Hotz would allow Sony to sift through his computer. She also ordered him not to delete or modify any files connected to the jailbreak.

Meanwhile, Sony is threatening to sue anybody posting the code, even though Sony accidentally tweeted it earlier this week.

Sony?s attorney, Gilliland, said the Japanese console maker has been sending out an undisclosed number of DMCA ?takedown? notices to websites demanding the code?s removal.

Sony is also asking Judge Illston to order Google to surrender the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video on Hotz? private YouTube page. The game maker is also demanding that Twitter provide the identities of a host of hackers who first unveiled a limited version of the hack in December.

A hearing on that is scheduled next month. Sony is seeking unspecified damages.

[VIA Wired]

funstuff234 · 02-10-2011

Damnit! I bet geohot has way more ps3 hacks that he never released and now sony has em all!

chicosoft · 02-10-2011

That's stupid

... Maybe one day, sony will loose all the customers for this attitude

aj2912 · 02-10-2011

i better go destroy my hdd just in case they try to sue me for breathing their air

sebas6681 · 02-10-2011

and boom goes the dynamite.
seriously, EVERYONE"S ip adress, what, they planning a sue-a-thon or something? sheesh.

iDoiStuff · 02-10-2011

I am stuck between mad and happy.

I am happy because geohot ****ed up the ps3! if he didn't even begin to hack the ps3 otherOS would still be there and everything would be all good!

but I am mad because Sony is over reacting and ****ing up everything! I kinda hope sony goes down and the Playstation is history, I wouldn't mind moving BACK to xbox.

NeedmoarDesu · 02-10-2011

"Illston said she changed her mind because she was not clearly aware of the details in her earlier order."

Just goes to show you how incompetent the judge thats handling this case is..

pwrshft99 · 02-10-2011

Everybody thought Sony was wasting there time and had no case. Mark my words Sony will win this.

They arent going to get a payday or a secure system out of it, but they will win in court atleast. Egohot could have avoided alot of trouble by keeping his identiy secret.

pavachan · 02-10-2011

im certain it isnt backed up in about a hundred more places

D_O_A · 02-10-2011

I would assume he at the very least had a copy of Sony's SDK... They will tear him to pieces if he does.

02-10-2011	#1
Pirate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,930 Likes: 370 Liked 7,989 Times in 1,233 Posts Mentioned: 568 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Geohot Forced to give up HDD to Sony More updates from the drama-tastic battle between Sony vs Geohot. As you know recently Sony was denied the request to expedited discovery, and the ridiculous subpoenas they asked for. However not all is a win, today Sony scored another one and Geohot is now forced to give up his HDD with all his data including those of PS3 hacking. To quote an article from Wired: PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz must allow console-maker Sony to comb through his computer?s hard drive and retrieve information ?that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation,? a federal judge ruled Thursday. U.S. District Judge Susan Illston?s ruled from the bench in Sony?s ongoing legal action against the New Jersey hacker, who goes by GeoHot. The lawsuit is in connection to the 21-year-old being the first to fully hack the 4-year-old console, a jailbreak allowing it to play pirated and home-brewed games. Hotz posted the code on his website last month, and put a how-to video on YouTube. That landed him in court here on Digital Millennium Copyright Act civil allegations. Among other things, Sony accuses him of trafficking in devices that circumvent controls meant to protect copyrighted works. In the Thursday hearing, Hotz? attorney, Stewart Kellar, objected to the judge?s bench order, saying Sony would be able to ?observe? the contents of all his client?s files. ?That?s the breaks,? Illston said. Hotz has already removed the YouTube video and the code from his website to comport with the judge?s earlier orders. The judge had originally ruled weeks ago that Hotz must surrender all of his computer gear to Sony. But Kellar asked for reconsideration, and a hearing was hastily called Thursday Illston informed Kellar that it was routine for the entire contents of computers to be searched in a bid to isolate what is being sought, as in child pornography prosecutions. ?Your honor, we?re certainly not dealing with child pornography in this issue,? Kellar replied. Moments later, the judge responded: ?Here, I find probable cause that your client has got these things on his computer,? she said. ?It?s a problem when more than one thing is kept on the computer. I?ll make sure the order is and will be that Sony is only entitled to isolate ? the information on the computer that relates to the hacking of the PlayStation.? The DMCA makes it either a civil or criminal offense to traffic in wares meant to circumvent devices protecting copyrighted works. Performing a similar hack on a mobile phone is lawful. Sony?s attorney, James Gilliland, was quick to point out to Illston that the mobile phone is not at issue here. ?The conduct Mr. Hotz has engaged in is still covered by the DMCA,? he said. The judge also backed off on an order that Hotz ?retrieve? the code from anybody who he may have forwarded it to. ?It?s information. It can?t be retrieved. It?s just not practical,? Illston said. ?What would they do, Xerox it and mail it back? ? Illston said she changed her mind because she was not clearly aware of the details in her earlier order. ?This kind of got away from me and I apologize for that,? she said from the bench. The judge ordered Sony and Kellar to confer with each other on the parameters of where and when Hotz would allow Sony to sift through his computer. She also ordered him not to delete or modify any files connected to the jailbreak. Meanwhile, Sony is threatening to sue anybody posting the code, even though Sony accidentally tweeted it earlier this week. Sony?s attorney, Gilliland, said the Japanese console maker has been sending out an undisclosed number of DMCA ?takedown? notices to websites demanding the code?s removal. Sony is also asking Judge Illston to order Google to surrender the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video on Hotz? private YouTube page. The game maker is also demanding that Twitter provide the identities of a host of hackers who first unveiled a limited version of the hack in December. A hearing on that is scheduled next month. Sony is seeking unspecified damages. [VIA Wired]

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02-10-2011	#2
funstuff234 Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 17 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Damnit! I bet geohot has way more ps3 hacks that he never released and now sony has em all!

02-10-2011	#3
chicosoft Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's stupid ... Maybe one day, sony will loose all the customers for this attitude

02-10-2011	#4
aj2912 Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i better go destroy my hdd just in case they try to sue me for breathing their air

02-10-2011	#5
sebas6681 Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	and boom goes the dynamite. seriously, EVERYONE"S ip adress, what, they planning a sue-a-thon or something? sheesh.

02-10-2011	#6
iDoiStuff Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am stuck between mad and happy. I am happy because geohot **ed up the ps3! if he didn't even begin to hack the ps3 otherOS would still be there and everything would be all good! but I am mad because Sony is over reacting and **ing up everything! I kinda hope sony goes down and the Playstation is history, I wouldn't mind moving BACK to xbox.

02-10-2011	#8
pwrshft99 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 81 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Everybody thought Sony was wasting there time and had no case. Mark my words Sony will win this. They arent going to get a payday or a secure system out of it, but they will win in court atleast. Egohot could have avoided alot of trouble by keeping his identiy secret.

02-10-2011	#9
pavachan Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 33 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	im certain it isnt backed up in about a hundred more places

02-10-2011	#10
D_O_A Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 195 Likes: 42 Liked 43 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would assume he at the very least had a copy of Sony's SDK... They will tear him to pieces if he does.

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