[2die4]

The real question is are electronic signatures to an eula legal also you don't get an eula when you buy the ps3 from The retailer, the gaming consoles and games are the only equipment you buy first and then sign the contract which frankly is bs

geohotz case will set alot of precedents and no matter what your personal opinion on him this is a case that you as a consumer can't affford to lose as it will extend past just the ps3

[japsander]

Originally Posted by 2die4 also you don't get an eula when you buy the ps3 from The retailer3

it should state on the box where to find and read the terms and conditions before you open the package, remember the old saying "always read the label"? if you dont agree you get a full refund providing it is still sealed.
it may be obscure, but they have bases covered most of the time. they dont hide facts from you, they just dont put them in plain sight.

it sucks

[denero1]

knowing sony and the court system they could use another system saying he signed up which binds him into a agreement :| who knows :\

money can make amazing things happen but i doubt any of this is true >.>

[2die4]

Originally Posted by japsander it should state on the box where to find and read the terms and conditions before you open the package, remember the old saying "always read the label"? if you dont agree you get a full refund providing it is still sealed. it may be obscure, but they have bases covered most of the time. they dont hide facts from you, they just dont put them in plain sight. it sucks

Yeah true but luckly the eu doesnt like these sneaky tactics also it would come back to Sony sold it as a computer system for tax purposes and how can it be illegal to run your own code on a computer as he didn't heavily modify the firmware which I believe is kinda legal but dnt quote me on that

[junior2k9]

this is ridiculous just like all their other stupid claims

Not only did Hotz publish the
“Metldr Keys” on his website, he also provided links on his website to his other
circumvention devices, including the 3.55 Firmware JailBreak and the Signing
Tools, encouraging and enabling individuals to download these circumvention
devices, and thus facilitating video game piracy

How does that encourage piracy lol Infact he went out of his way to try and prevent piracy and allow only homebrew from this BEFORE they decided to take him to court. I hope Geos Lawyers are smart enough to nit pick all these ridiculous statements scea makes . If Sony wins this and quite frankly with this judge they have who seems like she dont know the first thing about computers and/or video games or piracy, then this will spark a lot of big wig companys to try and tackle the little guys. This would be a prime example of the rich getting richer from the middle/low class guys. when that happens you can expect the country to look like egypt a cpl months ago or even libya now lol Sony needs to suck it up and stop acting like little panzy ass babys ....waaaa he hacked my ps3 BFD you retards ps3 is outdated its time for ps4 They should sue Kevin Butler for publishing the same key geo did in a twitter....But no they keep putting him in stupid ass commercials hoping to sell their **** . like the Killzone 4 lol OMG OMG OMG Kevin Butler plays KZ4 everyone lets run out and buy it ..... NO you ****** bags. Noone really cares about him . Put someone like Charlie Sheen in a commercial playing KZ4 and watch sales go thru the roof.
Nuff Said

[KingKush]

Update: PS3 Hacker Case GeoHot
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1157239p1.html

Sony says hard drives were delievered with missing components.
Noted PlayStation 3 hacker George Hotz is currently enjoying his time in South America as Sony continues to build its case over the console's recent security breach.

New court documents reveal the hard drives Hotz was ordered to deliver were done so with key pieces missing. The Intelligence Group, the third-party group behind inspecting Hotz's hard drives for evidence, are now asking him to hand over the rest of the components.

"SCEA learned that Hotz had deliberately removed integral components of his impounded hard drives prior to delivering them to a third party neutral and that Hotz is now in South America, an excuse for why he will not immediately provide the components of his hard drives as requested by the neutral," Sony says.

"Hotz's attempts to dodge this Court's authority raise very serious questions."
- geohotgotsued.blogspot.com
George Hotz is enjoying himself in South America.
Sony also says he lied about having a registered PlayStation Network account, which establishes that Hotz agreed to the PSN User Agreement and is thus subject to personal jurisdiction in California. Sony says it traced serial numbers of PS3 consoles purchased by Hotz at GameStop.

"SCEA's records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name 'blickmanic.' The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives," the document says.

"Hotz's ownership of the "blickmanic" account is further supported by the fact that an Internet search of the user name "blickmanic" reveals a posting discussing the jailbreaking of cellular phones – Hotz's original 'claim to fame.'"

[Mystt]

Update:

Its also been noted on IGN and I quote:

Stewart Kellar, Hotz's attorney, has responded saying the missing hard drive parts have now been delivered. "The 'integral components' SCEA is talking about are stock controller cards, not the hard drives themselves," Kellar told IGN in an e-mail. "The neutral subsequently had to explain to SCEA the form and function of hard drive controller cards. Those controller cards have since been provided to the neutral so the point is moot."

Hotz is just on vacation which is not against the law as this is not a criminal suit but a civil suit; he's not running away. Nor did he steel the $ you all donated, else why would his lawyers still be working on the case? This was just Sony's attempt to fabricate the real situations that have occurred, in order to convince the judge that Hotz is a criminal and impose onto the public that currently supports Hotz, to lose faith and respect in him.

[dan1982]

sony cant prove anything and i love how this has made such big news on various sites saying, he has fled, get your facts right, flee from a civil case? come on now, and sony has to prove that it was him who actually made the account, and which unless they were there looking at him physically agreeing to this agreement there is no proof, screw you sony and the ones hatin on george,

[Th3_MoL3]

@Greg

Update: Stewart Kellar, Hotz's attorney, has responded saying the missing hard drive parts have now been delivered.

"The 'integral components' SCEA is talking about are stock controller cards, not the hard drives themselves," Kellar told IGN in an e-mail. "The neutral subsequently had to explain to SCEA the form and function of hard drive controller cards. Those controller cards have since been provided to the neutral so the point is moot."

Source IGN http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1157239p1.html

Edit i see someone just posted this

[Pockets69]

I would just like to highlight this:

RichDevX Richard X by KaKaRoToKS blickmaniac's post http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f167...unlock-793551/ has this pic http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/1562/w175gunlocked.jpg which geotags show Cambridge, MA, not in NJ : http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...,0.006539&z=18 1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Now Sony prove your ****!!!

ok the links are censored, i ll fix this in a sec.