[patastinky]

cool.. GEOHOTz lives in Glen Rock, NJ

[inkblot007]

People....

First, A TOC is not a legally binding contract. At all. It is merely an agreement with Sony. The court has to make it binding.

Second, if Geo Hot lied under oath, he can face up to 30 years in prison. In federal pound you in the a** prison. In NO WAY will it effect the result of this law suit. Sony is suing based on the law, not on their TOC. The TOC is simply used as support in their court case.

Third, remember this case is about intellectual property rights. Geo Hot being a liar or not doesn't even come into play. Sony is saying that due to Geo Hot's hacking, they have lost income. They are also saying the law itself makes what Geo Hot did illegal.

Lastly... Man I hope Geo Hot has an explanation. Now the least of his fears should be Sony. Courts take perjury VERY seriously.


Oh yea, don't forget, even if they can't prove he has a PSN account, they can still get jurisdiction in America, just in his home state. The only reason they want California is because the jurisdiction is so corporate friendly.

[PS3Ftw]

a story in the cell:

Prisoner: So why are you here in the cell?
Geohot: Hacking on Sony.
Prisoner; Bwahahaha!

[profixit]

I'm not surprised, What goes around, Comes Round.
He's been riding his luck for far to long. Time to bring a close for Egohots.
I was surprised when the donations just stopped. makes me think he Knew.
Anyone get any money back?

Doesn't do your credibility any good, when you lie.

[Pockets69]

umh this has even reached the legend Kevin Mitnick! hotz is a real buzz right now LOL!

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by japsander it should state on the box where to find and read the terms and conditions before you open the package, remember the old saying "always read the label"? if you dont agree you get a full refund providing it is still sealed. it may be obscure, but they have bases covered most of the time. they dont hide facts from you, they just dont put them in plain sight. it sucks

Also, depending on how much of a pain you want to be, you can also ask in store to see a copy of it before you purchase lol

[kamanashi]

Originally Posted by inkblot007 People.... First, A TOC is not a legally binding contract. At all. It is merely an agreement with Sony. The court has to make it binding.

Actually, ToC,ToS, etc are legally binding. The only time they aren't is if they violate consumer protection laws. Sony's do not violate them, thus they are legally binding.

Does everyone on this site seriously think they are a genius when it comes to the legality of this stuff? You guys think everything on the front page of this website is truth and that you guys are all part of some anti-Sony revolution.

Just accept that you don't need your "backup" launchers, you guys didn't increase sales of the PS3, and that you guys are ruining the PS3 with the cheaters and pirates.

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by kamanashi Actually, ToC,ToS, etc are legally binding. The only time they aren't is if they violate consumer protection laws. Sony's do not violate them, thus they are legally binding. Does everyone on this site seriously think they are a genius when it comes to the legality of this stuff? You guys think everything on the front page of this website is truth and that you guys are all part of some anti-Sony revolution. Just accept that you don't need your "backup" launchers, you guys didn't increase sales of the PS3, and that you guys are ruining the PS3 with the cheaters and pirates.

No, most do not take what they read as the truth. Most have an open mind, although you do not appear to with your statements as you have obviously done Zero research. On the subject of research, I have actually trawled through page upon page upon page concerning ToS' and they are Not actually legally binding in the sense that they can prosecute you for breach of contract. They allow the operator of a service (with regards to PSN etc) to dictate what is done with their service and the most they can do if the agreement is broken is ban you from using that service.

[eppog]

Guys, this is all a misunderstanding …That console that Sony talks about is mine and the PSN account was created by me!!! See, I live next door to George Hotz and we’ve always been good friends. At the time I bought the console, I was waiting to be connected to the internet by my ISP so I asked Hotz if I could use his for a while…Good neighbours, that’s all… SUCK THIS $ONY :thefinger::thefinger::thefinger:

[upsman1999]

I support Geo 100% in this matter, I have a ? has anyone went to watch this in court. I would hate to think that Sony and the media are putting all this info out, and all along Sony has done nothing but backed Geo into a corner and made him take a job to prevent hacking of the PS3...