[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by Mistawes Sorry, but you had the chance, you were on 3.55 and knowingly updated to 3.60, THEN upto 3.61.. I don't think you deserve the effort being put in, since you had the chance. However, for those that heard about it too late, I do feel sorry for and hope there is a solution (which I suppose there is, dump 3.56+ NAND/NOR, edit it and write back). Not being argumentative, just honest. ____________________ I think the main problem for Math, is people raping him for front page news.. Look at what happened when he started posting in the infectus/downgrade thread on PSX-scene, mods/admins thought they could get more views by shining the spotlight on him, but it's just gonna put him off (well, I'd be put off if I was him). Let him do what needs to be done in PEACE, he can't get away with anything because certain sites want news and they're all just cloning each other, so once any site starts talking about him, they all do, then Sony knows exactly what he's working on or helping us with, by just reading front page news. Just my 2 cent..

Being Honest it's the best way to say things and reach the other user and not argue..
But im beg to differ in this point, She/He do the update, Stuck on 3.6x, If you are a legit user. And buy Portal 2, The update comes with the game. So IT'S A MUST Go have 3.61/3.70 the upcoming titles.
It's relevant, You can do want you want to do with the product u bought. Unless u sign some paper before buying it.
Maybe if i ***** for being on 3.60 and do nothing about it...Yeah it's a wrong posture. But if no one it's *****ing about it and He/She done the update, Well a solution will eventually come up.
But the policies that $ony uses are failing at fail, The optional it's a future imperative..So. Like i said what u bought = It's yours. Do whatever you want with it.


Respect to Math, I will be totally sincere about this. Yeah you are right they are bashing him for *Not share* most of the info that's he have.
But i DOUBT that posting him in frontpage, Will be a rock on his path.
If he really have the intention to release the WHOLE hack (if he has it) he will do it. If not...Someone else will do it.
He is helping Slynk, And the users (that want to know more about this) on the community about this QA topic.
We do the *Hints* stuff other to the *Hardwork*. Btw it's was you neither me that posted the video on youtube about the QA flag. *If you trow the rock into the water, Deal with the ripples*.

So long story short, Math it's neither a Savior of the Scene or the Death of the Scene it's self.
Someone will gonna release it, I don't think he will do it, Proly Will be a random user.

Think about it.

If YOU want work in peace, why go post a video showing that some crazy buttons combo you can enter to options never seen before?.
Don't do it. Work quietly and no one will be disturb you..
No sense in doing such thing if you don't want to be in frontpage.

[Mistawes]

Let me put it this way.. People work hard and finally open up the PS3 after how many years. Yet within a couple weeks/months of the scene starting, you decide "fuk it, there's nothing worth waiting for, to hell with CFW". That's one thing, but to go looking for a newer FW to be broken because you're now bored of PSN, get real!

My point about 3.60 and 3.61 is that you have tried to permanently block hacks on your PS3, TWICE! - This wasn't accidental, it wasn't under false pretenses, you must have known there's no going back (anybody on any PS3 forum at the time couldn't miss that fact) yet you're still looking for a newer CFW..

Now, do you at least see where I'm coming from..?

I think people who updated have to just get a 2nd PS3 or downgrade the one you have.

I reckon the newer keys that can be dumped, will be eventually, then we've newer games unlocked for older FW (which is all we can expect, there'll never be CFW + PSN again, for any decent amount of time anyway).

@ Hellsing: I appreciate that, I've got Portal 2 sitting here, Dirt 3 and even when all we had was 3.41 I had GT5 sitting there, un-opened waiting for a method to play it. The difference is patience.. My point is, if you want latest games and PSN access, CFW ain't for you. How do we know Annelies (I'm only using you as an example, mate!) isn't gonna update to 3.70 once 3.65 is broken? They've done it before.. Anyway, if a modding enthusiast found out too late about jailbreaking, then they can still downgrade to 3.55 and get everything there is to offer if they have the skill (not even much skill). Whereas the only people wanting a 3.56+ CFW tend to be children who don't understand the situation fully.

FWIW, If Math didn't post that video, nobody would even be aware of that mode/menu. Also, if it was posted by some random nobody, I doubt many people would believe it's legit. Not only did he make us aware of it, he's giving tips on how to enable it.. This is the best possible thing he could do for us! If he just gave us QA mode on a plate, the huge volume of people investigating it, wouldn't have bothered to get involved in the first place and by not getting it straight away, we're digging even deeper into the console. Also, if he did, he'd prolly get sued..

It's better to help people find the answers themselves, rather than do it for them.. Teach a man to fish... and all that jazz!

Just my oppinion, you guys are entitled to yours too!

[hellsing9]

I hate PSN, and don't even play online. In my case (my personal case) I can't afford another ps3 (too expensive on my Country), So all i can say that (in my case again) The update was purely accidental. I was on 3.55 (already bought the HD to run some backups) And i when i see the update was corrupted..I double check and i was on 3.60.
Funny thing was, that i have ONE game legit and when i tried to get online the net was down.
So a started to research on my own with the help of the boards.

So i said..f$@! this, I own a pc i will play online with my rig it's much easier. I see often too much users that have two consoles (ps3) Fat+Slim and they manage to complain about a non existing CWF for 3.60, Well it's ok. It's ok to be pissed And if you done the update KNOWING that you cannot downgrade...Well. What i can say about this?. The choice it's up to the owner of the console. Like i said *You bought it, Do whatever you want with it*

Respect to Mat.. (again) Yeah he showed the QA flag flaw, (Im on this thing on other board) And it's frustrating but nice to talk about it. Yeah he show *us* a path, With the risk of being sued, And in was frontpaged too. I asked him what where the risks of release a whole hack, I wanted honesty from his side. I do not know the guy, Cause the comment he done about this all thing and 0x2c Hint was *How come anyone discovered yet the whole thing..And in the same post what I UNDERSTOOD about it was like, *Man you are ALL n00bs who come you can discover something soooooo easy to be founded, i will release the hack for my self*.

That's the posture that get mad to anyone who read that, He found the QA flag it's ok.
Get the point?.
And some Honesty do not hurt anyone.
Mostly we don't have IDA PRO skills, and i doing my research as the other who want to contribute BUT if you put something that it's not RIGHT. Some users tell you *man you are aiming the wrong way*. Other just said search in Codes, others work silent.

Im ok with just NOT found a download link a tutorial and someone to explain to me HOW things works. I rather learn HOW things reached certain level and HOW happended, I do not begged for a solution or give me the hack!!.
Just asked a question and i had a reply (An honest replay from him).

But too much digging more and more into the console, i don't know if it's Ok, they taken us the right to use linux on our consoles.
If the rumour it's true once discovered the QA flag you can downgrade/upgrade as you please. (What i been read more times than expected). The consecuence will BE terrible. (On the good side of it, and the bad side of it)
So it's cool to have linux back, But have in our power that quantity of options...Really i don't know if is safe.

I don't get tired of say, Mat it's *Safe* cause *they* want to be to be safe. It's a very good resource for $ony as for us, the users.
But when they get tired or had the information they want, Anyone can be charge with false accusations. 2 gone, 1 more to go.
THEY need one on the loose end, that it's having a whole community digging.

He prolly get sued (Like you said), or anyone that follow his steps.