[DEFAULTDNB]

Arrrrrrr.

I download TV rips of series to watch them, not collect them. If I had a VCR i could record what I wanted and record over it... whats the diff?///, I dunno how rules worked back then.

[psyki]

i know i see it as kinda the same thing. although personally im a bit of a hoarder since digital pirating, dont even watch things more than once most of the time
but it not like im making or taking money from anyone so meh

[japsander]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Arrrrrrr. I download TV rips of series to watch them, not collect them. If I had a VCR i could record what I wanted and record over it... whats the diff?///, I dunno how rules worked back then.

thats how warez used to work in the old days from what i remember
record movies from analogue tv and digital tv exclusive channels in early days and sell the movies at markets etc, same as selling cassettes recorded from the radio etc

It is legal in the United States and United Kingdom to record live TV for personal use. In U.S. law, recording TV programs for later viewing is protected under "Fair Use." It is legal to physically give out copies of TV recordings to other people, but it is illegal to distribute those copies through peer-to-peer file sharing on the Internet. What You Can Do You can legally record a broadcast TV program on a recording device such as a Video Cassette Recorder, Digital Video Recorder or computer for your personal use. Recording programming for later viewing is called "Time Shifting" and is a legally supported act. You can view the recorded content as many times as you want, you can make additional copies of the recorded content and you can distribute copies of the content to other people in person. Educational uses of recorded TV content receive additional protection. It is legal to record a TV program and play it for a class. You can also edit and parody the recorded content as long as the new version adds new value (insight, understanding, aesthetics) to the original. For example, you can parody a music video by changing the audio track to a different song that sarcastically relates to the video's imagery. You also can edit an episode of a TV show to show specific lines a character says to demonstrate that character's attitude toward a topic. What You Can't Do You can't hold public exhibitions, rebroadcast, distribute on peer-to-peer networks or sell a TV broadcast recording. Fair use does not protect mass distribution of recorded content or the ability for a person to make a financial profit from a copyrighted recording. Fair Use "Fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and 'transformative' purpose," according to the Standford University Libraries' copyright law reference. Fair use's primary function involves protecting people's ability to comment and critique copyrighted works. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the fair use provisions legally condone people recording live TV programming. Sony Corp. V. Universal City Studios The TV recording copyright laws for the U.S. are rooted in the Sony Corporation V. Universal City Studios court case–commonly known as the beta max case. The Supreme Court determined that "videotape recorders" did not infringe on the TV programming copyrights and the potential financial loss to copyright holders from TV recording would be negligible. The case made it legal to produce and sell TV recording devices and for people in the U.S. to record TV programming.

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[depblkman]

In a way, we all pirate. It doesn't have to be games. It can be music, movies, apps, etc. How many people have pirated copies of windows 7 with a crack versus how many people ACTUALLY bought it? People try to make pirating a bad thing and in some cases it is. But there is that little gray area....

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[hellsing9]

Pirates were the ones who wandered the sea.

[falloutsux]

Originally Posted by itskamel let me set the record straight on where i stand. I dont give a **** what you do.

that is PRECISELY how i feel man, you literally took the words straight from my m mouth

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by depblkman In a way, we all pirate. It doesn't have to be games. It can be music, movies, apps, etc. How many people have pirated copies of windows 7 with a crack versus how many people ACTUALLY bought it? People try to make pirating a bad thing and in some cases it is. But there is that little gray area.... Sent from my cod mw3 sniping position using Tapatalk 2

I toatly agree with you. I don't pirate games but I pirate everything else. Hell a lot of companies were created from piracy such as Activision.

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Pirates were the ones who wandered the sea.

Pirates were the one who created the sea and gave it marine life if you catch my drift here.

[itskamel]

Originally Posted by JustThatDude I toatly agree with you. I don't pirate games but I pirate everything else. Hell a lot of companies were created from piracy such as Activision.

then why worry about pirating games?

[70X1C]

when you live in a part of the world where there are no shops that sell top selling games and u are not allowed to use credit cards for on-line shopping, the only options is to pirate. not because you dont want to buy the games, but because thats your only option to getting video games.