[Thelostdeathknight]

Moved thread to correct section......... scene drama. Also renamed it to be more fitting considering it's another one of Demon hades crazy rants.... kinda like that rant about how progskeet is recycled infectuses.

here is a crappy Google translate because i know Demonhades loves it when people Google translate him. xD :
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ue such hell? As you know yesterday ps3crunch user by testing discovered that he could load ps1 games by loading the emulator executable and a copy of the reader .... up there all right. Suddenly as not, some who want to take strength to JFW DH, threats so that their work (extinction) decided to include in your backup loader, without really thinking about the damage that can produce thousands of ps3 now ..... explanation. Let's check the procedures carried out by introducing a ps1 game: 1.Interpretacion the Media Type This step is designed to make reading dev_bdvd that through mechanisms of interpretation, to give as valid a format that is mounted on a unit with the media type of PS1. 2.Mecanismos adopted in interpreting media type PS1 This mechanism is what makes the whole assembly of entailment linked to such procedures, including communication occurs for a precise calibration of the lens to lower your risk of burning, apart from using the system memory cards. And classification of resources 3.Optimizacion The emulator has to be native from within the XMB, not a manager as such, to perform step 2 of the mechanisms adopted reserves the required memory and cancel jobs imnecesarias. In short, the method published any of these points are carried out and more in Multimedia (who weighs his own and consume his own), does not calibrate the lens and passes control to a PS2 emulator that has embeded the ps1 interpreter (with driver cd of the year 1990). 1saludo demons, this post is dedicated to you who Soysa who importais me, not because we'll get run over before the finish ... if the rest want to ignore this perfect (it has the right), kudos to you not only have deank put a new sticker to your Multimedia Album, but people will soon release new lenses ..... silly spending by deanK operation

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yup looks like another load of demonhades manure.... i wouldn't even use it to fertilize my lawn

[Rax909]

Google really should update their translating feature because most of the time it seems to be a "hard" translation and not ever a "full" real translation. Because even with that translated I couldn't understand any of it. lol All I could pull from it was what we know what he apparently said towards the ps1 games. And the lasor/lense and so forth. Other then that...most of it looked like gibberish

[Thelostdeathknight]

Originally Posted by Rax909 Google really should update their translating feature because most of the time it seems to be a "hard" translation and not ever a "full" real translation. Because even with that translated I couldn't understand any of it. lol All I could pull from it was what we know what he apparently said towards the ps1 games. And the lasor/lense and so forth. Other then that...most of it looked like gibberish

I mainly posted the translation because i know it will annoy DH, because his bashing of Deank annoys me. Plus it's hard to translate CRAZY.... lol

[hamtah]

Originally Posted by Thelostdeathknight Moved thread to correct section......... scene drama. Also renamed it to be more fitting considering it's another one of Demon hades crazy rants.... kinda like that rant about how progskeet is recycled infectuses. here is a crappy Google translate because i know Demonhades loves it when people Google translate him. xD : --------------------------------------------------------- ue such hell? As you know yesterday ps3crunch user by testing discovered that he could load ps1 games by loading the emulator executable and a copy of the reader .... up there all right. Suddenly as not, some who want to take strength to JFW DH, threats so that their work (extinction) decided to include in your backup loader, without really thinking about the damage that can produce thousands of ps3 now ..... explanation. Let's check the procedures carried out by introducing a ps1 game: 1.Interpretacion the Media Type This step is designed to make reading dev_bdvd that through mechanisms of interpretation, to give as valid a format that is mounted on a unit with the media type of PS1. 2.Mecanismos adopted in interpreting media type PS1 This mechanism is what makes the whole assembly of entailment linked to such procedures, including communication occurs for a precise calibration of the lens to lower your risk of burning, apart from using the system memory cards. And classification of resources 3.Optimizacion The emulator has to be native from within the XMB, not a manager as such, to perform step 2 of the mechanisms adopted reserves the required memory and cancel jobs imnecesarias. In short, the method published any of these points are carried out and more in Multimedia (who weighs his own and consume his own), does not calibrate the lens and passes control to a PS2 emulator that has embeded the ps1 interpreter (with driver cd of the year 1990). 1saludo demons, this post is dedicated to you who Soysa who importais me, not because we'll get run over before the finish ... if the rest want to ignore this perfect (it has the right), kudos to you not only have deank put a new sticker to your Multimedia Album, but people will soon release new lenses ..... silly spending by deanK operation ------------------------------------------------------------------------- yup looks like another load of demonhades manure.... i wouldn't even use it to fertilize my lawn

Here is a more sophisticated translation:

What the hell? As you know yesterday ps3crunch user by testing discovered that he could load ps1 games using an emulator and also executing a backup copy. Suddenly it isn't, someone challenges the strenght of JFW, and sends threats to include his backup manager. Without knowing that this (PS1 Emulator) can harm thousands of PS3. Explanation: Let's check the procedures carried out by launching a ps1 game: 1. Interpretacion the Media Type - This step is designed to make reading dev_bdvd through mechanisms of interpretation, to give as valid a format that is mounted on a unit with the media type of PS1. (He is saying that this step allows the mechanisms in the PS3 to interpret the dev_dvd to think the game being played is a PS3 game, but it is actually a PS1 game) 2. Mechanisms adapted in interpreting media type PS1 - This mechanism is what makes the whole assembly of entailment linked to such procedures, including communication which occurs for a precise calibration of the lens to lower your risk of burning, apart from using the system memory cards. And classification of resources. (What he is saying here is that there is a mechanism adapted in the PS3 which reads PS1 games, but Multiman is using the PS3 mechanism which reads PS3 games to run the PS1 games) 3. Optimization - The emulator has to be native from within the XMB, not a backup manager as Multiman, to perform step 2 of the mechanisms adapted reserves the required memory and cancel jobs necessarily. In smaller words, the method published by any of these points are carried out and more in Multman (who weighs his own and consume his own), does not calibrate the lens and passes control to a PS2 emulator that has embeded the ps1 interpreter (with the CD driver from the year 1990). (Not sure what he is saying here) Greetings demons, this post is dedicated to you because you are important to me, not because we'll get run over before we reach the goal with JFW. If the rest of the people want to ignore this, then fine (you have the right). kudos to you (deank) not only have you put a new sticker to Multiman, but made it so that people will soon need new lenses. Operation Idiot: caused by deank. (He is saying that not only deank has put out a new Multiman logo but he will also be responsible for the damages to the PS3 with his program, and people will have to buy new lenses for their PS3s. Then he insults deank)

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Yes, most of this is horribly translated but I know very little Spanish. But from this, DH is just talking pure bull**** and he is basically talking about running PS1 backups using Multiman can damage the PS3 lens (reader) because it is not the PS3 is not fully backwards compatible with the PS1. He states that the PS1 games cannot be ran natively from the XMB or even Multiman. He gives in explanation on the reason, but I had alot of trouble understanding what he was saying.

Edit: I have added a few keypoints to the translated paragraphs

[Brett11]

lol that comment alone proves they are just trolls, don't expect anything from these retards
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Originally Posted by hamtah Here is a more sophisticated translation: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, most of this is horribly translated but I know very little Spanish. But from this, DH is just talking pure bull**** and he is basically talking about running PS1 backups using Multiman can damage the PS3 lens (reader) because it is not capable of reading of what the PS1 can. He also talks about how PS1 games are not native to the XMB.

he is a idiot. anyone with half a brain knows if you put a ps1 game in your ps3 it will play fine.

[VIRGIN KLM]

I can't believe people are still talking about this...

I'll explain something that everybody must know:
PS3 is not responsible in any way detecting what kind of media is inserted as a physical disc type like ANY OTHER DEVICE THAT HAS ANY KIND OF COMBO DISC READER, either if that's a cd/dvd, cd/dvd/bluray, cd/dvd/hddvd, cd/gdrom(dreamcast) etc...
The CD/DVD/BD/HDDVD/GDROM drive has a mechanism in it's firmware how to detect what kind of a disc is inserted.
The mechanism is simple.
The lens starts by checking for the density of the written data on the disc. (Completelly non harmful)
Depending on how close or how distant the data is, it recognises the media.
Distant is CD
Closer is GD-ROM (Dreamcast) (keep that example i'll explain why)
Even closer is DVD
Very close is BD

Now all this is done even if the PS3 gives just power to the BDROM drive, without the need to exchange any data, it's a mechanism of the hardware part of the drive to do that proccess.

Now to enforce even more why it's only the drive's job to recognise the media I'll use the example of GD-ROMs.

The issue with GD-ROMs wasnt that you needed special hardware to read those discs but none of the CD/DVD combos has a mode to detect the density of those discs so it was unable to read them.

If in any kind the operating system/software was responsible for how a disc drive detects the discs, there would have been programs that can enable your machine to read those discs, but as I explained before, the problem lies before how an operating system treats the inserted media.

So what was the fix?
You needed to flash your drive with a special firmware that detects the density of GDROMs.

If Demonhades WAS correct then theoritically and practically we would have been able with a simple software to insert a GDROM on PS3 and read it's contents, but this is completely not able to happen unless someone hacks the firmware of the drives inside the PS3.

So my point is stop feeding the troll.
Because he has a mouth it doesnt mean that always what it comes out of it makes sense...

[elcido6]

Do retail discs (non-backup) original PS1 discs ever make loud jarring/grinding noises after inserting into the disc drive? I have had a few backup discs do this, and other strange noises while in loading. I need to know if this is normal or not.

[alienkid]

Demonhades = ....

By far.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by elcido6 Do retail discs (non-backup) original PS1 discs ever make loud jarring/grinding noises after inserting into the disc drive? I have had a few backup discs do this, and other strange noises while in loading. I need to know if this is normal or not.

You seriously want people to ban you and block your ISP?
Because posting exactly the same thing and just after the answer I gave that this is a lie, it's seriously rude...

[Elyssion]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM You know it's actually funny when even noobs know more than a supposed developer. This case with Demonhades is the perfect example.

Demonhades is NOT a even supossed developer, he wouldn't be able to compile a hello world.

He is just an idiot that runs a site, and that has some idiots working for him, most of them are just little script kiddies (there is a rumour about 30 year old demonhades liking teen boys too much ), although there are exceptions like jaicrab.