[lordv]

Originally Posted by playerkp420 How do you think we got here. We have evolved from apes? The souls that built the pyramids are our real ancestors. Think about it. You will know when they return.

Lol

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[malex]

Originally Posted by bigo93 ... The first element in teh universe would be obviously Hydrogen, maybe some Helium and possible a few lighter elements. The only way to get heavier elements would via supernovae. Of course the first stars very supermassive stars, they would have had a short lifetime compared to our Sun, but still it would probably take a few novae to get to the heavy elements like Uranium. ...

I don't think that's right. The super massive stars would have if anything been more capable of making uranium. Remember, the more massive a star is the heavier the elements it can produce through nuclear fusion (it has more gravity to fuse heavier elements) and the resulting their supernovae would no doubt easily produce all the heavier elements. I suspect you meant to say overall quantity of the heavier elements? That would, of course, grow more and more with each supernovae.

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt ... I actually see dolphins becoming an evolved race after the human race is extinct. They are very smart creatures now. They make toys for themselves, and are the only other species that we can prove give each other names.

No to mention only other species that has sex because it's fun.

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin It just looks like a barren waste land out there to me. Thousands of years of looking and searching and we have no proof outside of a few conspiracy theories. The government has even abandoned spending trillions because they know there isn't anything out there. There is either a God or earth is a colossal accident. I find it hard to believe that man climbed out of water as a jellyfish-like form and needed food to sustain life that just happened to conveniently be growing and living right in front of him. Oxygen was also highly convenient. There would have been no natural instincts at this point so I'm going to add clothing and fire to that list. I find it harder to believe that the same thing has occurred on other planets. I think it takes more faith to believe this than it does to find spirituality.

I think you are being short-sighted...literally. Let's put it this way, if you are in a desert here on Earth and you look all around and see no life, would you conclude that there's no life anywhere else? Just as you wouldn't be able to see the entire Earth from the desert, we can't see the entire Universe.

Also, we haven't been looking for that long, SETI has been looking for ~50 years, that means we would only have made ourselves known to beings withing a ~50 year radius (only 14,699,999,950 light years more to go). Not to mention in order for us to receive a message it would probably take the same amount of time as it took to get there, so if they received it know, it would take another 50 light years to respond, or it could be on the way.

As far as the coincidences necessary for life to arise, when you consider the mind boggling places where life thrives here on the Earth, the vastness of the Cosmos, and the amount of time the Cosmos has had to experiment, then again, I don't see how you can't think there's other life.

Originally Posted by bigo93 ...But in religion, starts off the same way but instead of sharing it is forced onto others, they are forced to agree and if they dont they are persecuted even killed. Even when evidence is provided prove they are wrong, they deny it or destroy the evidence or kill the person who found it...

Thinking like that is pretty much thinking like the early Church used to think. Did you know that the man who proposed the idea that would eventually become the Big Bang was a catholic priest? And did you know that the man the discovered that stars and the Sun had the same chemical composition (meaning the Sun was just another star) was another catholic priest?

It may have 1000s of other faults, but actively detrimental to science is no longer one of them.

On a side note, father Lemaitre's "big bang" theory was dismissed by almost all scientist, probably because he was a member of the clergy, so in a way scientist became just as willing to stereotype/pre-judge others as they had accused the Church of being.

Originally Posted by ps3hacker12 I forgot to mention that I agree with you on the low probability or visitation. The chances for humans to visit another alien planet seems even more unlikely I mean its taken voyager one 34 years to get close to the edge of the solar system. Sent from me sitting in the bush in your front lawn typing the above message... using Tapatalk

Surely not during our lifetime, unless something really weird happens, but I believe that we will eventually be able of interstellar travel... if we don't eradicate ourselves before that is.

[donglehater]

Originally Posted by malex I don't think that's right. The super massive stars would have if anything been more capable of making uranium. Remember, the more massive a star is the heavier the elements it can produce through nuclear fusion (it has more gravity to fuse heavier elements) and the resulting their supernovae would no doubt easily produce all the heavier elements. I suspect you meant to say overall quantity of the heavier elements? That would, of course, grow more and more with each supernovae. No to mention only other species that has sex because it's fun. I think you are being short-sighted...literally. Let's put it this way, if you are in a desert here on Earth and you look all around and see no life, would you conclude that there's no life anywhere else? Just as you wouldn't be able to see the entire Earth from the desert, we can't see the entire Universe. Also, we haven't been looking for that long, SETI has been looking for ~50 years, that means we would only have made ourselves known to beings withing a ~50 year radius (only 14,699,999,950 light years more to go). Not to mention in order for us to receive a message it would probably take the same amount of time as it took to get there, so if they received it know, it would take another 50 light years to respond, or it could be on the way. As far as the coincidences necessary for life to arise, when you consider the mind boggling places where life thrives here on the Earth, the vastness of the Cosmos, and the amount of time the Cosmos has had to experiment, then again, I don't see how you can't think there's other life. Thinking like that is pretty much thinking like the early Church used to think. Did you know that the man who proposed the idea that would eventually become the Big Bang was a catholic priest? And did you know that the man the discovered that stars and the Sun had the same chemical composition (meaning the Sun was just another star) was another catholic priest? It may have 1000s of other faults, but actively detrimental to science is no longer one of them. On a side note, father Lemaitre's "big bang" theory was dismissed by almost all scientist, probably because he was a member of the clergy, so in a way scientist became just as willing to stereotype/pre-judge others as they had accused the Church of being. Surely not during our lifetime, unless something really weird happens, but I believe that we will eventually be able of interstellar travel... if we don't eradicate ourselves before that is.

OMG that was so much reading.

[etertay]

i belive there are aliens, but i think that they will look just like humans.

[japsander]

considering that fossilized bacteria have been found in meteorites i would say that is a sign of life.

[malex]

Originally Posted by donglehater OMG that was so much reading.

You read the whole thing?.... congrats, I was going to proof read the whole shebang, but when I saw how lengthy it was gave up LOL!

Originally Posted by etertay i belive there are aliens, but i think that they will look just like humans.

That would depend on how similar the planet it originated is to Earth. The environment where they evolve is what probably will ultimately dictate how they look.

[lordv]

Aliens of course somewhere exist. They just dont look like in the movies

[xi123xi]

Well without reading all of the thread, in my opinion there is a posibility for aliens to exist even tho that posibility may be small or big.Tho until something is scientificly proven, no one can comment like OFCourse they exist etc.And OFcourse the ones who dont beleive, cant say they dont exist just because it isn't scinteificly proven.

[dablakmark8]

I watched this bbc hd program steven hawkins.I must say i am impressed but if you watched it you would understand that there is a % related to other life on other planets.

[BasqueGascon]

I never believed in aliens to begin with and never will. Maybe this E.T. craze was all started by the natural human reaction of paranoia.