[Dominic1800]

i saw that website earlier tday on ps3crunch and thanked god pirate or another admin didn't post it here cuz tb team sux and so does that website

[stussy1]

Originally Posted by STLcardsWS There's that piracy statement again... Just because some has a TB doesn't make them a pirate.. Maybe they just want to play their legal backups. of games they bought and couldn't play Seems you want to call people who bought a TB "stupid" and then basically put blame on the people for their excistance for buying their product... When we all know that the best way for TB to go down is make their hacks useless, (like jailbreak 1) .. Not by placing blame on members or to continue to bash people who express their like for the device.. How about we support and encourage development .. If you are so worried about PIRACY and this thing why are you so eager for it to get reversered/cracked.. That would led to more piracy .... You should be more eager in the progression of the scene so that the reign of TB is short.. Why so much hate for TB compared to Cobra? Your mad because they cracked Sony drm? and they are using it on their dongle? And you think that isn't right? Well it really sound like "dejavu" you have people showing off post 3.60+ exploits! Yet they are keeping it for themselves ! Seems like that some of the actions of TB are not the first Dongle or even the first Devs to withhold things.. At least they are give out their findings in some way. Instead of dangling a carrot in front of everyone... Would you rather have NO TB or at least an option... Yes may not be the best option but its the best as of now.. and all it takes is a little scene progression and they are done... I think a person work shouldnt put down by anyone.. They did do alot of work.. Otherwise other people would be doing this and releasing the methods. Just do what they did an release the info.. It's that easy right....

and maybe if the seen went the right way instead of insulting,flaming and abusing the devs might have worked on a solution before the tb dongle but if i where a dev i probabley wouldnt have past it out anyway so many idiots in the ps3 seen is this how the xbox seen is if not might just have to get a xbox
and go there to many children at this seen you should be thankful for wht u got
if not pis? of back onto ofw and wing at sony or is sony sending you here to start a scene

[hamtah]

Originally Posted by <GEEK> @hamtah Don't get me wrong, I understand what you are saying. However, I find it foolish to not just fork out the extra cash on a used PS3. It is not like you would be wasting money, since you would be able to do more with it than you could a dongle. On top of that, you can be assured that all new games will be playable, plus the additional benefits of owning a ps3 bring. You don't get that when purchasing a dongle. You could order one today, and before you even get it in the mail a number of things could happen... for example... ∙ However the TB team are making games work could be patched. ∙ TB team could start charging a small fee for each compatible game you play using the dongle. ∙ Support for the dongle could vanish as fast as it appeared on the scene, making your dongle obsolete. ∙ New methods of launching backups could emerge (and I am sure will someday), making your dongle obsolete. ∙ Release groups could stop releasing TB patches for games. This list goes on and on. If you like wasting money (or thinking you are saving money by purchasing a dongle and then pirating games) then by all means, you deserve to own one Myself, I like to spend my money wisely, and don't pirate games. Most of my games have 50+ hours game play logged, $60 for 50+ hours of entertainment is not expensive, there are many more ways to blow much more than that on less entertainment purposes.

Finally something you have said I completely agree with. I already said from the beginning, I'm not buying it. All of this started from me saying that this is the best progression in the scene so far. All you have said is true, and I don't doubt it one bit. But, I am still not wasting my money on another PS3, and then buying 10 others games to play on. I will wait for a open-source solution for the TB, but till then, it is my 360 and me.

[jdtamimi]

I would rather go and watch the nasty donkey show then visiting their site.

[STLcardsWS]

Originally Posted by TizzyT It's still wrong to charge people for being able to play their legal backups, Also using the methods/exploits/code/tools/sdk/etc that the scene originally put out for free and charge us back for the device/software that they developed or to be more exact "to even be able to develop" for the PS3 in the first place is ridiculous. And don't say that "well the dongle is physical and making it free means they will be paying out of their pockets for us", easier thing to do was release the original software "which the device is also their to protect" and make it public for devs to implement into a CFW or open source exploit. And yes it is possible...DON'T argue, I will not reply. PS: I state my opinions and if you disagree then that's you, you be you and I be me.

Yea im sure they used some info/tools that the scene produced.But when the first ps3 Jailbreak came out im sure they used alot of their work as well on open source ports. i am confident in saying they did ALOT on their own or there would be others out there... "methods/exploits/code/tools/sdk/etc" SDK i really dont know what you mean by that as that is SONY's they have just as much right to it as the open scene after its leaked.. The methods we dont know what they have used just speculation..

As it a choice for them to release their work for free or paid or even at all is their choice..
As it is your choice to buy the thing or not.. I havent bought one, but just think we should see there is value in it for some people and let each user decide if $60 is alot or not..
Just have respect and DONT ASSUME everyone is a pirate for supporting a device.. Many are just happy they have the option, to play maybe a stack of Ps3 games they bought and cant play..

Only reason why people are buying it is pirating and a more legit reason have the real game and don't have the patience to wait for something that's free and still wants homebrew, which I still don't get as you already bought the games but you are going to dish out another ~80 bucks using something that is supposed to be free to play them???

Just take your own words.. " have the patience to wait for something that's free" and if that is soon, then there is no reason for the all the arguing on the forum about how bad/good the device is..

If it takes a long time then it stands that this is the best option as of now and the near future...

[ps3hacker423]

as of right now true blue is the easiest fix for ppl to play newer games some ppl have no soldering skills or dont wanna open there ps3 up for a progskeet or e3 anyways you pay 60 bucks for tb and its plug n play you shouldnt have to pay for piracy but they do keep pushing out releases

[jdtamimi]

Originally Posted by ps3hacker423 as of right now true blue is the easiest fix for ppl to play newer games some ppl have no soldering skills or dont wanna open there ps3 up for a progskeet or e3 anyways you pay 60 bucks for tb and its plug n play you shouldnt have to pay for piracy but they do keep pushing out releases

If they are welling to invest then invest in E3 or Progsheet. You can play the newer games with psn and revert back to 3.55 with ease.

[ps3hacker423]

Originally Posted by jdtamimi If they are welling to invest then invest in E3 or Progsheet. You can play the newer games with psn and revert back to 3.55 with ease.

what if they have no soldering skills why would they invest if they cant even install it

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by STLcardsWS Yea im sure they used some info/tools that the scene produced.But when the first ps3 Jailbreak came out im sure they used alot of their work as well on open source ports. i am confident in saying they did ALOT on their own or there would be others out there... "methods/exploits/code/tools/sdk/etc" SDK i really dont know what you mean by that as that is SONY's they have just as much right to it as the open scene after its leaked.. The methods we dont know what they have used just speculation.. As it a choice for them to release their work for free or paid or even at all is their choice.. As it is your choice to buy the thing or not.. I havent bought one, but just think we should see there is value in it for some people and let each user decide if $60 is alot or not.. Just have respect and DONT ASSUME everyone is a pirate for supporting a device.. Many are just happy they have the option, to play maybe a stack of Ps3 games they bought and cant play.. Just take your own words.. " have the patience to wait for something that's free" and if that is soon, then there is no reason for the all the arguing on the forum about how bad/good the device is.. If it takes a long time then it stands that this is the best option as of now and the near future...

Your points and views are well taken, while many do not have the patience and get this for legit reasons and care less for the price there are people who still want a free alternative. As you have stated it is their decision to make it free or not, I was just stating my opinion and saying that it was a horrible decision (not that it matters lol). When I say SDK I meant something like PSLight as I can't imagine them using Sony's sdk....as Sony would definitely be on their asses if they were (could be wrong). Sure it might take some time for some games but a lot of games are already made to run on 3.55 and were released within weeks of the games launch.

I am also sure they used many parts of the original PS3 JB source as I'm guessing it used the same "internal hub" method. Their payload and all that is probably just a modded one of the ones already released. Sure there is many things that they wrote/did themselves but a lot of things in the scene was written by talented devs like multiman and it was given out free. So again I'm saying it was a bad decision on developers part or the people behind the developers who implanted the thought of making a dongle out of it.

[jdtamimi]

Originally Posted by ps3hacker423 what if they have no soldering skills why would they invest if they cant even install it

The new method is solder-less...