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Originally Posted by JOshISPoser Some people ask: "why are we here?", i ask: "Why do we have to have a reason?".

You know, I've never EVER thought of it like that!

[ElSalvatore]

Originally Posted by pepethedon Your topic was RIDICULOUS to begin with. The only reason I posted was to reaffirm what various friends said about ZIONI$M [...]

Why did you have to reaffirm...? I think we were all okay here. Maybe YOU were in need of some sympathy?

Originally Posted by pepethedon You're obviously in need of some sympathy.

Why? Because I started this thread? So everybody posting ANYTHING that concerns Hitler and how terrible the things were he has done is just in need of some sympathy?
Yeah, you're right. F*ck Hitler. But not only him: f*ck everybody who died in the war against him. And not only those who died in the war: f*ck everybody who died because of him... right?

Originally Posted by pepethedon I mention my jewish friends because you're trying to make it seem like I'm against jews in some way, when on the contrary.

If you weren't you wouldn't feel so offended.
But I didn't mean to make it seem like you were against anybody. I was just saying that those thoughts you had (Jewish banks/banker = bad) are the same as "black = drug dealer" or "german = nazi" -I know that those are very exaggerated examples.
And just that Hitlers hate for jewish people started as he was still young. And on that hate came much more hate because of many other things. I didn't say his war against the jewish population was just because he was rejected by the school of art by a jewish teacher or whatever he was...

Originally Posted by pepethedon Let's just agree to disagree, and be friends because I like everyone on this site too much to fight over something so ****ty. <3

Sarcasm? I'm too tired to recognize sarcasm right now, sorry...

€dit: The question abt sarcasm is actually a real question...

[fahadsul3man]

dont know about hitler's jewish ancestory but he was obsessod with old pagan religions of germany and thought he was successor of the holy roman empire. Also his ancestory linked with rothschild...family who funded stalin to come into power and its not rocket science y usa was the first country to recognize the zionist state , cuz rothschild used to and is still controlling usa and using the clueless lads of the usmc as proxies to install puppet regime in iraq and make contracts to buy oil only for shell oil company owned by rothschild , the rothschild created the zionist state :

this is engraved on the supreme court of israel


and on the top left of the building u can see the pyramid with one eye(the all seeing eye) the same pyramid found in us dollar bill ..... its all coincidence ? well its up to u to decide

[pepethedon]

Originally Posted by fahadsul3man dont know about hitler's jewish ancestory but he was obsessod with old pagan religions of germany and thought he was successor of the holy roman empire. Also his ancestory linked with rothschild...family who funded stalin to come into power and its not rocket science y usa was the first country to recognize the zionist state , cuz rothschild used to and is still controlling usa and using the clueless lads of the usmc as proxies to install puppet regime in iraq and make contracts to buy oil only for shell oil company owned by rothschild , the rothschild created the zionist state : this is engraved on the supreme court of israel and on the top left of the building u can see the pyramid with one eye(the all seeing eye) the same pyramid found in us dollar bill ..... its all coincidence ? well its up to u to decide

THANK YOU!!!!! I believe the engraving says "Dorothy de Rothschild grove", which leads you to "The Obelisk". (an Egyptian cult symbol of phallic worshipping, associated with the god osiris.)

"The Israel Supreme Court is the creation of one elite family: the Rothschilds. In their negotiations with Israel, they’ve agreed to donate the building under three conditions: the Rothschilds were to choose the plot of land, they would use their own architect and no one would ever know the price of its construction. The reasons for those conditions are quite evident: the Supreme Court building is a Temple of Masonic Mystery Religion and is built by the elite, for the elite." -VC

These people are in the business of mis-information as well, but deal heavily with symbology (this is how they communicate and flaunt their power to the masses, without literally saying "WE OWN YOU, SEE!?")

[fahadsul3man]

http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-...olf-hitler.htm if someone has time maybe they can read this article and as every picture has two sides u should study the other side of the world wars too http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2-2.htm
www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1.htm

http://www.threeworldwars.com/nwo-timeline1.htm and thats the link which has loads of evidence about usa's NWO
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It is also worth noting that the all seeing eye of the pyramid on the top of the supreme courts building means that the police state is meant to safeguard the rights of the elite zionists , and the eye of horus can also be found in the memorial for 9/11 ......

[BobbyBlunt]

Lol at the USA's NWO. It isn't just the US it is the whole world. Let's look at the the E U and the NA U. Oh yeah I probably lost you. Don't blame theUS for **** that the US didn't pioneer. The whole world is guilty of wanting a new world order. You guys have fun dealing with your World bank while we deal with the Federal Reserve. Please research things a little better before trying to make a point

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[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by ElSalvatore Who is he and why was he evil? (I just read a bit up on Wikipedia. But now I only know that he was a baptist pastor)

Read a little more of his Wikipedia, he is:

Anti-Gay
Anti-Woman
Anti-Muslim
Pro-Zionist
Anti- Public Schools (because they teach science)
Anti-Black
Anti-Arab
Anti-Abortion
Pro-War
Pro-Segregation
Pro-Apertheid

Also, he has a lot of famous quotes that make you feel ashamed to be the same species as him...here is one of the better ones:
After the September 11 attacks in 2001, Falwell said on Pat Robertson's The 700 Club, "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'"

[fahadsul3man]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt Lol at the USA's NWO. It isn't just the US it is the whole world. Let's look at the the E U and the NA U. Oh yeah I probably lost you. Don't blame theUS for **** that the US didn't pioneer. The whole world is guilty of wanting a new world order. You guys have fun dealing with your World bank while we deal with the Federal Reserve. Please research things a little better before trying to make a point Sent from a vantage point using tapatalk

interesting thing about world bank is that its meant to force submit a economically unstable countrry that includes making the government enforce policies which r pleasing for the world bank :
1. to sign secret agreements of 111 items

2. in which they agreed to sell off their key assets - water, electric, gas, etc.

3. in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved

4. in which they pay off the politicians billions of dollars to Swiss bank accounts to do this transfer of a countries fixed assets

If they do not agree to these steps they are cut-off from all international borrowing. Today if can't borrow money in the international marketplace, no one can survive, whether you are people or corporations or countries. If that does not work they overthrow the government and plant lies about the former government and/or even rewrite history.

if u see the structure of world bank every president is from usa and usa has majority of voting power within the world bank

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by fahadsul3man interesting thing about world bank is that its meant to force submit a economically unstable countrry that includes making the government enforce policies which r pleasing for the world bank : 1. to sign secret agreements of 111 items 2. in which they agreed to sell off their key assets - water, electric, gas, etc. 3. in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved 4. in which they pay off the politicians billions of dollars to Swiss bank accounts to do this transfer of a countries fixed assets If they do not agree to these steps they are cut-off from all international borrowing. Today if can't borrow money in the international marketplace, no one can survive, whether you are people or corporations or countries. If that does not work they overthrow the government and plant lies about the former government and/or even rewrite history. if u see the structure of world bank every president is from usa and usa has majority of voting power within the world bank

You only need to borrow money if the economy is f**ked to begin with...politicians spend the economies into the ground, then they have to sign away the wealth of the country to pay the bills. It all starts with the politicians; if they are responsible then they don't start the problems to begin with. The loan sharks at the WMF are not saints, but they don't force this on governments; they do it willingly.

[nobleskill]

Originally Posted by KillerBug Hmmm...they get free land taken from Palestine, then they steal more, then they steal more, then they steal more, then they steal more...I wonder why all the surrounding areas don't like them??? As for Hamas, they ARE terrorists...and they only exist because of the conditions created by Israel. This site is not about gaming...if you want that, there is the Escapist. This site is about freedom. Sure, it is generally about freedom to run homebrew...but freedom none the less. Cocaine is only illegal so that the CIA can charge higher prices when they import it to fund their black budget projects. No one dares challenge that...on the rare occasion that someone does challenge them, they "commit suicide" without leaving a note, using a gun they didn't own. The "rocks" that people live on belong to those people...not to dinosaurs, and not to the people who lived there thousands of years ago. Palestine was not part of the Axis...so for the Allied governments to give away Palestinian land against their will is nothing short of theft. For Israel to then expand their borders over and over again is also theft. If Israel had been located in the UK and they kept pushing their borders out like this, the whole world would be dropping bombs on Israel in retaliation, but it is Palestine so no world governments really care. Oh, and remember this...the land belonged to others before the Jewish people showed up, claimed that god had promised them this land, and then started killing every man, woman, and child (even those that surrendered) in order to take the territory. If someone took your land, stole your oil, installed tyrants into your governments, and then committed terrorist acts on massive scales on civilians to defeat the tyrants that they installed so that they could install new tyrants and start the process over, wouldn't you be against them??? It is no wonder these people are anti-western. The only remarkable part is how peaceful they have been overall. Just look at Egypt...they should have completely overthrown the government, but instead they just got the leader to leave and hand over power to the military that was doing his bidding the whole time! The military didn't even overthrow the government or anything...he handed power to them willingly because they were on the same side. ...I know all these things from what little trickles through the government-controlled media...the true extent of things is actually far worse I am sure.

Originally Posted by wtfTroll i think that @KillerBug pretty much answered everything, but this i had to answer on my own as an arabian and part of the arab spring. we've been living so long under leaders who claimed that they're patriots, those leaders dared to use the palestine case to move the people's feelings and then betrayed us, we here lived under the Cruelty of gaddafi for 40 years during the 40 years there were attempts to bring gaddafi down and the biggest attempts were by the national salvation front you know who helped gaddafi survive them? america(gov).. we weren't independent in the last 40 years the country was moved from the outside what ever they want happens before gaddafi was a dog for USSR when it fall he started sucking for the west there's no doubt we hate the west, but not for no reason it's their Positions that define, so if the west was on the right side and stopped israel when it kept BOOMING GAZA on a war scale killing hundred of kids,women and men we wouldn't hate them, so don't you dare say anything about the arab spring we have the "right" to get the rest of out rights, we have the right to hate the west for their Positions and most of all we have the right to help palestine

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Regardless of what you say, before 1946, Palestine used to be a full country, until it was destroyed by what is now Israel Yes indeed, your comments are ignorant and dangerous.. Thanks for the compliment, but i haven't contributed anything, i write news, thats it.... Of course they are ignorant and offensive to a pro Zionist, after all Zionists are the kings of creating propaganda, my view points are what the world is beginning to see, what the world is starting to stand up against. The well known saying "The truth hurts" really does stick here.

Guys there are some valid points made here ( also some very interesting conspiracy theories I hadn't heard before..) but also some very aggressive and unnecessary rudeness. On this ill only say that my point was missed some, misinterpreted by others, selectively judged on less relevant points by probably most and as always there are points i could make selective arguments and too many historical references and sling insults too.. and we go round and round... this is par for course with these types of political discussions when done in person where body language is obvious and so intent and, usually, restraint stops them disintegrating into a vicious exchange of completely irrelevant, usually hateful, person attacks... yet alone in text only in a multination forum. ..

GR, my compliment was born of respect for your usual cool head, firmness but fairness and generally unbiased moderation of a very difficult board..

Id really like to not discuss politics with the more passionate and aggressive posters here though. My reason being is the key points i attempted to make where missed and met with offensive person attacks and conspiracy theories that are on the borderline of just silliness. These are tell tale signs of an extremist or someone directly and significantly traumatised by some event, so understandably their unable to be analytical and fair on these issues and it never ends well. I don't expect to change your mind nor expect will simply forget things i have seen, experienced and frankly as you missed my point about i don't see it as a black and white situation (It wasn't just America who made the treaty, they did however take allot of displaced Jewish refugees that no one wanted, who then worked their asses off and sent money to the family back home,,, a home selected by others surrounded by their ancestral enemies... most expected them to not even survive yet alone grow... But they did because the same people who had everything taken from them ended up coining the phrase "land of opportunity". More than one conspiracy would no doubt be the response given back which will lead to another or a different one ... the complexity of keeping a secret that some claim has been done is illogical at best and that so many different intertwined done by so many is extremely improbable and difficult to take without significant evidence.. a secret between two is a secret no more usually due to questionable and emotional assumptions, but I digress, risking inflaming this but this is not my intent here...) both sides are at fault, no government is perfect, it wasn't just America who mad it it happen and will never be solved by extremest militias or murder en-mass, from either sides and the rest of the world.... this land really has a long history, I mean we are not anti-Semitic here are we? comments from our Arab brother above make it sound like there are allot of people there who still hold the ancient prejudices that stem from religious beliefs and holy land ownership thousands of years ago and its worth taking another humans life in the name of a God and yes other religions have done the exact same way in the past but aren't we a little past that sort of behaviour by now.... I mean we at the very base either way, god or no god, we need to calm the **** down about some ****... i mean really, just calm the **** down and be realistic about the value of expending so many resources over religious, and petty, fights........ to converse with your board members by simply repeating and insulting people is not what i expected from GR ...
Political discourse is great absent emotions...but i am truly sorry for upsetting or getting anyone offended.. i do however still stand by my beliefs