[GregoryRasputin]

I always worry about entering these discussions, because I fear things I may say, may be deemed offensive.

1.) I think abortion is murder, it should only be done in the most extreme times.
If you don't want to be pregnant, take precautions, or keep your vagina closed.

2.) The Holocaust was a horrible stain on human history, so many innocent people were masacared by evil, vile bastards.
I agree with @japsander that people should move on, but when I see the Israelis do to Palestinians what Hitler did to the Jews, then i see that History is just repeating itself.

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin I always worry about entering these discussions, because I fear things I may say, may be deemed offensive. 1.) I think abortion is murder, it should only be done in the most extreme times. If you don't want to be pregnant, take precautions, or keep your vagina closed.

There is no sure-fire birth control method. It isn't like women want to get abortions. As for those who don't even take these basic precautions, do you really want them raising children???

[fouzi]

who gives ****

i think we have enought problems already

just an opinion

[ElSalvatore]

Originally Posted by KillerBug The people at the start of the movie were just ignorant bastards. I bet most of them wouldn't know what the pythagorean theorem is either. Some of them were actually correct in spite of their ignorance...and the ignorance of the film maker resulted in them being included. Two or three said he was a communist leader...and he was. NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei = National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Well, yes, you can be sure they showed only those who didn't know that.
That's filmmaking.
But it's not a lie that more people/teenagers simply don't know about that stuff.
And are, just as you said, ignorant bastards.
I always meet people, for example on Counter Strike, spraying the "Hakenkreuz", but don't even have any idea what it means or where it comes from.
(I know, mentioning Counter Strike Players in a debatte about ignorance is quite ignorant. ^^)

Or another proof how ignorant some *******s can be:



I'm not saying that America is a bunch of states with a bunch of idiots or something. The pic is just a very good example...

€dit: The footline "Americans - The *******s of the World" was not from me. I found this pic on lolpics as it is.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by KillerBug There is no sure-fire birth control method.

Don't be silly, not having vaginal sex is a sure way of not getting pregnant, it is the best birth control

Not sure about the US, but here in UK/Ireland, there is an implant and i have yet to hear of someone getting pregnant wearing it.

Originally Posted by KillerBug It isn't like women want to get abortions.

Oh come on, if they didn't want to have abortions, they simply wouldn't have them, its not like they have a gun held to their head and someone forcing them, abortion is a choice and it is murder, when you abort a baby it is the same as murdering a new born baby


When you play Russian roulette with a mans penis, then its your own fault.

Men should also me more mature and wear condoms, even if its just to keep them from getting japsanderitis.

Originally Posted by ElSalvatore €dit: The footline "Americans - The *******s of the World" was not from me. I found this pic on lolpics as it is.

I know you didn't make the image, but it should read
"Human's - The Ass Holes Of The World"

When it comes to being insensitive, its a worldwide thing, not solely situated in America.

Originally Posted by fouzi who gives **** i think we have enought problems already just an opinion

You didn't need to make a comment, this thread is for mature adults to have a mature discussion, you have proven you cannot do that, so no need to spam the thread

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[ElSalvatore]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin I always worry about entering these I agree with @japsander that people should move on, but when I see the Israelis do to Palestinians what Hitler did to the Jews, then i see that History is just repeating itself.

Well. That's why we should NOT FORGET what has happened...
That's what the reporter said: Whe should not forget because if we do, we just repeat the same mistakes again and again...

It would be wiser to say not forget what happened, but forget who was to blame for it...

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There will be nothing gained from debating a subject like this.

[jhax78]

lol they choose the worst country to ask about the holocaust
you can't educate ignorant fairy tale believing people that think the world revolves around them

not every country in the world is uneducated
hell here in Holland they make sure you won't forget it
we get educated about it in school have a national day to remember all the
people that died during the war

as for abortion

im against but in extreme cases like

proven the child will have no normal life = dna related causes
rape i don't think the women should be punished if she abort's

this whole movie i don't see the point of this 1940/1945 = not the same as abortion

[jaurk]

I am for abortion, I can see logically that it is murder too.
I guess perhaps I'm a sick ****, but I don't feel any bad feeling about an abortion, therefor I believe it should be allowed.

Because having a child can mean death of the woman, her husband, many other issues.
So in many cases, when an abortion is wanted, it is because the mother cannot support the child, it is because the mother is extremely young, on a low paying job.

The child may also suffer greatly, by being born, therefor making it humane for abortion, just as it's humane to turn off life support for brain dead people, or people in immense pain, people who have no hope and will suffer.

Or it can be just another woman who is pregnant because she's irresponsible (not so often)

I'm kind of hesitant to post this, as I'm clearly not the majority and might be subject to a lot of flame, for opposing opinions.

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Also, what about masturbating males, millions of mildly conscious pre-children die if not fertilized soon.
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Originally Posted by Warning This thread should be locked. There will be nothing gained from debating a subject like this.

I think discussion on every subject ever should be allowed, censorship and silencing are 2 of the most horrible things ever.