[GregoryRasputin]

It is now Saturday the 17th of December in Japan and the time is almost 9AM, the PS Vita has already... [Read More]

[Cheesethief]

I wonder how long it will take till Sony starts removing features on this console...

[hello1]

Cheesethief: Probably not before someone starts to abuse some features for purposes that they were'nt intended for, and that these features can't be patched to block the exploit. Hopefully that won't happen this time around

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by hello1 Cheesethief: Probably not before someone starts to abuse some features for purposes that they were'nt intended for, and that these features can't be patched to block the exploit. Hopefully that won't happen this time around

The PS3 had only just been released in the US, when they decided to remove the Emotion Engine from EU models, that had nothing to do with hacking.

Sony had already planned to remove the OtherOS function on Slims, before GeoHot had even touched the console, yet again, nothing to do with hacks.


EDIT:
ANY feature Sony have removed, has had nothing to do with hacking.

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by hello1 Cheesethief: Probably not before someone starts to abuse some features for purposes that they were'nt intended for and that turns out to not be patchable. Hopefully that won't happen this time around

OtherOS being taken away is what angered the hacker community into breaking the PS3's security to pieces. Geohot didn't really do anything with OtherOS that would have caused the situation that Sony got into on 3.41 and 3.55. Average Joe would never be able to do what Geohot did, but since Sony pissed the crap out of developers, Average Joe now can do everything he wanted and more if he is on a hackable firmware.

A lesson Sony should learn from this is, DO NOT piss off the developer, programmer, and hacking community, or you will regret it dearly. They should have also learned to be thorough in the way they set up their security from how the PSP was hacked to hell and back.

[Trnc]

Im not going to buy a new Vita anyway. Ill buy a second hand console and by that let Sony lose a sale. Im not going to give sony more money than they deserve. And thats not much at the moment.

When they stop being stupid idiots ill send them some money for their new creations. Second hand Sony items Is the new big thing

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by Trnc Im not going to buy a new Vita anyway. Ill buy a second hand console and by that let Sony lose a sale. Im not going to give sony more money than they deserve. And thats not much at the moment. When they stop being stupid idiots ill send them some money for their new creations. Second hand Sony items Is the new big thing

The more complex the console, the more of a chance that the console may have problems when you buy second hand... And consoles are getting pretty damn complex. Answer: Buy a new in box console from someone.

[hello1]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin The PS3 had only just been released in the US, when they decided to remove the Emotion Engine from EU models, that had nothing to do with hacking. Sony had already planned to remove the OtherOS function on Slims, before GeoHot had even touched the console, yet again, nothing to do with hacks. EDIT: ANY feature Sony have removed, has had nothing to do with hacking.

True, but i assumed he ment removing from already purchased systems. Removing things on later updated models to for example save money on production costs is a different thing.

About the OtherOS removal from the PS3 Phat models, everything around that is just speculation. I've seen maybe 4-5 different reasons/speculations given around the removal, everything from that IBM pressured Sony to remove it to making room in RAM/memory for PS Move and 3D support. In the end, i think we will never know the true answer. The official reason for why OtherOS was removed from Slim is cost reduction, and from PS3 Phats is due to security issues.

Originally Posted by Cheesethief OtherOS being taken away is what angered the hacker community into breaking the PS3's security to pieces. Geohot didn't really do anything with OtherOS that would have caused the situation that Sony got into on 3.41 and 3.55. Average Joe would never be able to do what Geohot did, but since Sony pissed the crap out of developers, Average Joe now can do everything he wanted and more if he is on a hackable firmware. A lesson Sony should learn from this is, DO NOT piss off the developer, programmer, and hacking community, or you will regret it dearly. They should have also learned to be thorough in the way they set up their security from how the PSP was hacked to hell and back.

I think that it would happen regardless actually. I think that we would still see the PS Jailbreak dongle. And OtherOS was first removed from the PS3 Slim, which was a reason enough that the hackers could use.

I think the fear that Sony had was that someone could use OtherOS to hack the PS3, and then simply the method so that the Average Joe could use it.

But i still stick with what i said earlier I dont think that anything will be removed unless someone abuse/exploit a feature on the Vita for purposes that weren't intended, and if it isn't possible to patch this exploit.

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by hello1 I think that it would happen regardless actually. I think that we would still see the PS Jailbreak dongle. And OtherOS was first removed from the PS3 Slim, which was a reason enough that the hackers could use. But i still stick with what i said earlier I dont think that anything will be removed unless someone abuse/exploit a feature on the Vita for purposes that weren't intended, and if it isn't possible to patch this exploit.

Why do you think that the PS3 remained secure for what was it? Four years. That is a VERY long time. Hackers were not very interested in doing anything much with it because it had OtherOS. They were also not so tempted to do anything when Sony took out support from the Slim because the old consoles still had it. When Sony took it from the Fats was the last straw for the hacking community.

PSJB may not have existed if Sony did not take out OtherOS.

[warkbt]

No reverse engineering, no soft mod...

Jajajajaja, who writes these user agreements?

Sony,