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Old 01-07-2012   #11
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Originally Posted by Señor_Striatum View Post
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I'm enjoying the debate!

I don't particularly know Walmart's policies and actions so am not commenting on whether or not it deserves to be brought down, I'm talking specifically about the LP guys who would be affected by this and you wouldn't be the person making the sacrifice, these particular guys would be, and without a say in the matter to boot! It's easy to talk about sacrifice when it's someone else you're sacrificing. :D I know I'd be royally pissed off if I found my loss of a job is all for someone else's greater good.

Just out of interest, is it for any other reason that you don't like Walmart or is it just that their CEOs make a lot of money?
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@mosstopher walmart is a really scummy company they treat their workers like sh!t, they pay you min wage and make you work overtime without pay with the threat of job loss
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Originally Posted by mosstopher View Post
I'm enjoying the debate!

I don't particularly know Walmart's policies and actions so am not commenting on whether or not it deserves to be brought down, I'm talking specifically about the LP guys who would be affected by this and you wouldn't be the person making the sacrifice, these particular guys would be, and without a say in the matter to boot! It's easy to talk about sacrifice when it's someone else you're sacrificing. :D I know I'd be royally pissed off if I found my loss of a job is all for someone else's greater good.

Just out of interest, is it for any other reason that you don't like Walmart or is it just that their CEOs make a lot of money?
When I mentioned sacrifice for the greater good I was well aware that it was not myself who was being sacrificed and you have a valid point that I would not want to be th one sacrificed. On the other hand, what about all the poor people who are ticketed, arrested and/or banned for stealing in an effort to provide for the roofs over their children's heads? With this possibility it becomes a question of ethics for the lost prevention position to even exist. Surely this question of ethics must have crossed the employees mind at some point. Especially in light of everything that has been going on lately. I would not be the one to be sacrificed because I am not working lost prevention. I work in the research industry.

Is it okay to pay someone to protect and enrich the lives of an elite 1%, or to be fair the 10% - 20% who own 80% of America at the expense of the rest? Or should the lost prevention position be made vulnerable and hopefully non existent for every shopper at these dominating corporations. I propose the latter until your average American actually has a chance of running his or her own business.

It is not only the CEOs specifically that I have beef with but rather corporate inequality in general. I also have beef with the fact the government and big business have a synergistic relationship at the expense of the people they serve. I was only using Duke as a prime example of the elite that own America.
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Old 01-07-2012   #14
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It's obvious that the employees were every bit prepared to make you face the consequences for something you didn't do. I think you should make them equally accountable for something they did do. I might feel different had you not been profiled or if they had even bothered to offer you an apology. The worst part is that they made no attempt whatsoever at being discreet about it.
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@mosstopher walmart is a really scummy company they treat their workers like sh!t, they pay you min wage and make you work overtime without pay with the threat of job loss
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It's obvious that the employees were every bit prepared to make you face the consequences for something you didn't do. I think you should make them equally accountable for something they did do. I might feel different had you not been profiled or if they had even bothered to offer you an apology. The worst part is that they made no attempt whatsoever at being discreet about it.
What Pbanj says most likely explains why what BobbyBangin says is wrong.

Most of us will have experienced 'bosses' who demand better work and better monthly results, and whilst they may not openly threaten you with the sack, they usually have nice little words that make it plain that unless you do better you are in line for the boot.

The company is at fault here, not the individual workers (even if they are arse holes lol), and unless you know whether they acted as they did through their own choice or through being told that the monthly figures needed to go up you cannot judge them.

Have a go at the ones who make the rules by all means, but leave the ones who have to follow them alone as let's be realistic here, they are in that job through need not desire.
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