[Calliope]

Originally Posted by svenmullet All I'm saying is if you quote me or others, USE QUOTES or at the very least, make it clear who said what. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to that sh*t.

I already did that as well as using CODE /look @HELLSING And if it really was an issue with the quoting, besides the fact that I am a new user here, then I am pretty sure that Helsing would have helped me to do as with the CODE. So get off your high horse shave off your small fascist mustache for the time being

[euss]

Originally Posted by Calliope I never said that the entire PS3DevWiki was wrong or manipulated. I merely stated that some passages of it might or was wrongfully manipulated to serve others interest. Collecting and using information is apart of researching. Being able to delimitate between what is useful and important to the subject and what is not. Finding and collecting information and adding ideas and thoughts to them is part of the important process to reach the end goal. First you aquire the needed knowledge, then you make an assessment of what is needed and then you implement.

So yet you go on with accusing, yet without proof nor pointing out /which/ passage is wrong, /which/ information is manipulated etc. and still requoting it as correct, valid, working, proven without /factual/ research, only theorising. Quite a dubious enigma you wish to continue (you are contradicting yourself).

Well, theorise this: the information on ps3devwiki is carefully inspected on every edit for correctness. If there is any doubt about the validity of data, it is surrounded by ?questionmarks? or followed by a request for factual data, documents or other that support and prove the claim made in the suspected edit.

I highly recommend you reading up on how a wiki works, what mechanisms are in place to secure its correctness and most off all I would appreciate it if you could keep your slander elsewhere where I don't have to read it or other trolls pick it up because they just like kicking developers/documenters and the scene in general.

Keep in mind, the ps3devwiki is the collaboration of 418 users posting 12,231 edits on 1,244 pages under the watchfull eye of over 2,072,195 visitors.

See also : Remark about ps3devwiki

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by svenmullet All I'm saying is if you quote me or others, USE QUOTES or at the very least, make it clear who said what. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to that sh*t.

Hellsing specifically told him to use code brackets. Just an fyi. Calm down and there is no "zero tolerance policy" on ps3hax regarding quotations.

[euss]

Originally Posted by svenmullet All I'm saying is if you quote me or others, USE QUOTES or at the very least, make it clear who said what. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to that sh*t.

btw, I like your remark, made it my signature (hope you don't mind I forgot the quote on that one)

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by euss So yet you go on with accusing, yet without proof nor pointing out /which/ passage is wrong, /which/ information is manipulated etc. and still requoting it as correct, valid, working, proven without /factual/ research, only theorising. Quite a dubious enigma you wish to continue (you are contradicting yourself). Well, theorise this: the information on ps3devwiki is carefully inspected on every edit for correctness. If there is any doubt about the validity of data, it is surrounded by ?questionmarks? or followed by a request for factual data, documents or other that support and prove the claim made in the suspected edit. I highly recommend you reading up on how a wiki works, what mechanisms are in place to secure its correctness and most off all I would appreciate it if you could keep your slander elsewhere where I don't have to read it or other trolls pick it up because they just like kicking developers/documenters and the scene in general. Keep in mind, the ps3devwiki is the collaboration of 418 users posting 12,231 edits on 1,244 pages under the watchfull eye of over 2,072,195 visitors. See also : Remark about ps3devwiki

Eventhough I did not at this stage come with specific remarks to passages that are invalid that does not mean that the situation cannot occur. Are you telling me that everything present there at the Wiki 100% correct without any exception? If so, then it should be considered the 8th wonder of the world My point is that source critism is an important factor in scientific research and research methods. I would recommend you trying it someday instead of just believing the first thing you read, hear or see

[Firebuble]

Originally Posted by Calliope Eventhough I did not at this stage come with specific remarks to passages that are invalid that does not mean that the situation cannot occur. Are you telling me that everything present there at the Wiki 100% correct without any exception? If so, then it should be considered the 8th wonder of the world My point is that source critism is an important factor in scientific research and research methods

maybe there are holes or not documented info... but definitively there are not lies

for me, you are another guy trying to looks like a very important people, like too many others around here

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by Firebuble maybe there are holes or not documented info... but definitively there are not lies

The devwiki is based on an honor system, the honor we currently have in this scene is below normal, far below.

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by Firebuble maybe there are holes or not documented info... but definitively there are not lies for me, you are another guy trying to looks like a very important people, like too many others around here

Wrongful information is by any names wrong and false. Call them lies, holes, undocumented information etc... It amounts to the same at the end. And I am not trying to be something that I am not. I am a scholar and an academic. I am what I am and nothing more or less

[euss]

Originally Posted by Calliope My point is that source critism is an important factor in scientific research and research methods. I would recommend you trying it someday instead of just believing the first thing you read, hear or see

My point is that you take slander it in one, holy grail it in another and there is NULL academic/scientific research done in the matter to PROVE or DISPROVE.

My point is that ps3devwiki is constructed as such and yet you both DENY and ACCUSE again that this is untrue (even worse, you accuse ps3devwiki to be constructed of hearsay)

So second time: put your money where your mouth is and prove or disprove. Clearly this topic is doing neither.
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Originally Posted by Calliope I am a scholar and an academic.

Then it should be peanuts to check up on your data before you slander it

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by euss My point is that you take slander it in one, holy grail it in another and there is NULL academic/scientific research done in the matter to PROVE or DISPROVE. My point is that ps3devwiki is constructed as such and yet you both DENY and ACCUSE again that this is untrue. So second time: put your money where your mouth is and prove or disprove. Clearly this topic is doing neither. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* Then it should be peanuts to check up on your data before you slander it

You just proved my point without knowing it! My point is EXACTLY that there are aspects that are valid as well as there are aspects that are invalid! And I can say that without stating which are valid or invalid. Are you telling me that there have not been made any corrections to the data present there ever since the Wiki was created until now? And can you guarantee that there won't be any corrections made in the future? If so then you're stating that you know everything there is to know in regards to the PS3, which would be quite stupid to presume. The data present there changes as do our knowledge in regards to the PS3. Only ignorant people will say that we now know all there is to know in regards to the PS3 because that would be outright stupid to think so. We do have a lot of information, but we do not have enough information to declare what is the ultimate truth in regards to the PS3 and the information we have. There are two ways to approach your dilemma: I either falsify or verify. Verifying the information there is easy as I would only look for things that would agree with my perception of things. Falsifying is much harder thus more scientific. Now stop riding my di*k and use your resources to something useful for the scene